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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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ok ok, i have everything, but i have no where for the c clip, at all, no where to put it. i might try the spring trick in there where the axles meet up, but i dunno. when i pulled the spider gears out, there were a bunch of shims inside there, but they would not fit with the spool put in placs, so i left them out, its got a little slop in there, but nothing too bad. putting the pin back in was a bitch, i hammered, and hammered, used a sledge hammer, and still wouldnt go in, i finally got it in there, but the end was trashed, and chipped, and just messed up, but its in there, ill be reassembleing it in the morning.

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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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the shims around the spider gears aren't hat big of a deal, but the ones that go between the carrier and the case MUST go back where they came from (unless you find it fun swapping random shims around trying to get the right lash )

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 02:22 AM
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The spring in the axle trick is the only way to go, unless you enjoy dropping the diff every time you break an inner axle.

Another thing you have to remember, when you pu the axles back in, the U joints MUST be in phase with each other, otherwise it will cause increased bind in the u joints, and make them easier to break.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 03:07 AM
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Make sure your lash is right before you button it up or bad things could happen You really shouldn't have had to mess with the lash on a mini spool.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Hoxii and the guys gave you great info. I thought Hoxii's list was perfect, but lacked a couple of steps so I thought I would expand on it:

*open cold beer. Drink. Feel cocky about the off-road smack downs you will be handing out left and right once your mini-spool is in. Emit "evil" laugh*

-Pull both axles (you have the cover off so i figure you've already done this)

*look in dismay at the size of your stock shafts and go price out some Superiors. Think about selling a kidney, then snap out of it*

-remove mainbearing caps (be sure to mark what side they came off and what direction they point)

*rather than marking them, set them to the left and right pointing in the correct direction. Later, trip over them kicking them halfway across the garage and hoplessly mixing them up*

-pull the carrier (might need a hefty prybar)

*smash thumb big time. Curse, kick the dog, drink another beer*

-be careful of the bearing cups, don't mess them up and note what side they came from

*do the same thing with them that you did with the main caps*

-take note of any shims that came out and what side they came from

*resign yourself to the fact that somehow, someway, at least one shim will be misplaced and you will waste three hours looking for it. Kick dog again for good measure*

-mount carrier in vice with the ring gear flange pointed "up"
-drive out the roll pin that holds the spider gear cross shaft in place
-drive out the cross shaft
-pull spider gears

*all of the above assumes that you have a vice. Try first by placing carrier in lap, holding it tight with your knees. That will work, right? Once you have crushed your genitals by trying to pound out the roll pin and cross shaft, curse wildly, throw tools at garage wall, kick dog, get bag of ice for smashed nether region, drink another beer, and buy a vice*

-install minispool
-drive cross shaft through hole (non-splined) in minispool, make sure the roll pin holes line up

*smash the same thumb again, drink another beer. The thumb isn't the only thing getting smashed at this point*

-reinstall roll pin
-place carrier in housing (rememeber the bearing cups)

*after dropping the carrier on your foot*

-reinstall shims

*since you never found that one, use a fender washer*

-reinstall main bearing caps
-tighten bolts to 80-90 lbs

*Thinking ahead, you got some shiney new bolts at the hardware store for this step when you bought the vice. After snapping them off at @ 30#s, you realize you should have bought grade 8, or better yet, reused the original bolts*

-recheck backlash (you shouldn't need to adjust it if you put all the shims back where they came from)

*Since you replaced the lost one with a fender washer, the lash will remain unchanged, right?*

-reinstall stub axle

* it should just slip in. If not, somethings wrong. Pound on the end of the stub with a 20# sledge untill it gives*

-reinstall centersection (30-40 lbs)

*snap more bolts, drink more beer, throw more tools, beat head against centersection since you've lost all feeling in your face by now anyways*

-keep going 'til you're done

*or the neighbors find you dead and/or the dog bites you*

Just trying to give an "accurate" description of the "proper" steps.



 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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Good one Pro.Hehehe.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Pro,

You left out the one I always get . . . differentials should only be setup by a professional because they not what they are doing.

Something Catastrophic could happen
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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hey pro that all sounds way too familar, but I think a step or two must be missing I didn't read any mention of getting the torch out, and your forgot about smashing head on truck undercarriage while reinstalling the centersection, and the part about threatening to turn the truck into a 2wd or threatening to shoot either the truck or the dog.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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From: Oregon-Take me wheeling..
i had the 2wd moment, i was running out of time and almost just bolted the hubs back together and left the center section just sitting there till a later date haha. not to mention the gasket moving out of place every time you try to line everythin up....by yourself, with a floor jack supporting everything......almost died several times...

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by Idiomaticman
i had the 2wd moment, i was running out of time and almost just bolted the hubs back together and left the center section just sitting there till a later date haha. not to mention the gasket moving out of place every time you try to line everythin up....by yourself, with a floor jack supporting everything......almost died several times...

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Little hint here don't use the gasket, I never do just use blue RTV, and get a couple of bolts about 2 in long and grind the heads off into a point screw into the centersection, and use as alignment pins works alot better. I always put things together by myself, when I have friends help I usually ended up with a couple of extra smashed fingers, and a few less friends
 
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Update:

last night i want wheelin, the inner shaft on the passenger side slipped out and may have broken something. if you are going to do something along these lines, please do like monsterbaby said to do with the spring in there. i am going to do that tomorrow after i check everything out.

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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you ran it with no spring or C-clip???????
 
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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:-staun Why no spring? When you put it back together, get yourself a Dana 50 slippy to beef it up some.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Idio have you figured out what is wrong? have you fixed it yet? Come on we need a update.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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i havent taken it apart yet, but the inner shaft pulled out, and from that the seal was leaking. i pushed it back in and no more leak. went over to a gravel lot and locked the hubs and put it in 4lo, everything seemed to be working correctly......ill pull it apart and check the spines and everything later.

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