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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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help with engine parts

I just got a 460 out of an 85 f250 with 33000 on it I want to put this in my 87 f250 that has a tired 460 both have carbs.

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1.what would be a good cam to put in this for pulling my TT
2. should I go with the Land L headers
3. what timming chain and gears
4. what intake manafold
5. new oil pump?
6. stock heads no work to them?

I know the engine would probly be fine as is but sence I have it out now is the time to do some work to it. any other info would be nice.

what I an looking at is
edelbrock performer manafold EDL-2166
edelbrock performer cam EDL-2167
new cam bearings?
edelbrock timming chain EDL-7830
L and L headers


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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Don't worry about the cam bearings, unless you are going to rebuild this engine. As far as the components, edelbrock sales a package that is designed to work together in a certain rpm range. Pick one that is going to suite your needs, be realistic. Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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1.what would be a good cam to put in this for pulling my TT. I WOULD LOOK TO SCOTT MAIN AT WWW.CAMRESEARCHCORP.COM FOR THE CAM/LIFTER/SPRINGS. HE IS A MASTER OF 429/460 FORDS WHEN IT COMES TO HEADS AND CAMS.

2. should I go with the Land L headers. L&L AND ALSO STAHL. BOTH VERY GOOD, STAHL HAS A KIT YOU CAN WELD UP YOURSELF.

3. what timming chain and gears. 1970 CAM SET, I LIKE CLOYS FROM WWW.SUMMITRACING.COM

4. what intake manafold. ITS HARD TO BEAT A STEALTH. I'VE SEEN GUYS TRY DIFFERENT INTAKES ON DYNOS AND THE STEALTH IS THE BEST TOURQUE/HP COMPROMISE.

5. new oil pump? YES BUT NOT HIGH PRESSURE. GET A GOOD PERFORMACE STOCK PRESSURE PUMP.

6. stock heads no work to them? THERE IS ALWAYS GREAT GAINS TO BE SEEN BY PORTING HEADS. HOME PORTING TO WORK THE EX PORT IS WELL WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT. YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT 429/460 HEAD PORTING AT http://reincarnation-automotive.com/
 
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Can someone tell me why you make reference to older timing chain sets for newer 460's. I have seen this a few times. what is the difference?
I currently have a 1995 f250 4x4 460 auto trans( not sure what style, it is not OD that i can tell) and get crap for gas milage. I run 285/85/16, axle code 39(3:55 i think) and a correct speedo reading. I have only had it for a week now, and I know the truck sat for some time on the lot and am hoping it will only get better in time.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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ther are two Weiand Stealth Intakes witch one should I go with. thanks for all your help
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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The pre-72 429/460's timing gears are set/installed at 0* (no advance), the older timing gears have a 4*advance to them already on installation Which allows you to set the timing better.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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The #8021 SCJ is the best, you need to port match the heads. Use a SCJ intake gasket and scribe the head by lining the gasket on the bolt holes. Then use a dremmel or simmilar and make a smooth radius from the scribe line to the intake port. Make it a smoth radius, dont drag it to far into the port, but dont make it a violent radius that will cause alot of turbulance. Check the Stealth SCJ against the gasket and do the same if its needed. Now your intake and head sould flow together nicely. Use a 1" spacer, if your looking for even more help in the low end use a 4 hole spacer, if your trying to add more towards the higher end use the open spacer. Always use a composite or phanelic spacer, the alluminum spacers are lame because they conduct heat so well and pass it to the carb.
For timing set here is a good choice from CRANE:
CRN-35993-1 Timing Set, Roller, 3 Pc. Metal, Multi Keyway, BB Ford 370-429-460 3-9 $84.39
Why the old style timing set you ask? Ford changed the timing set for smog engines and retarded the cam 8 degrees and that cost the buyer about 40 hp. You change to a old stlye no retard timing set and you put the 40 hp back where it belongs, under your right foot!

Oil pump:
MEL-M84 Ford: 429/460, standard volume, steel, cast, OEM replacement oil pump Today $29.95

Why did I suggest not getting a high volum like this one:
MEL-M84DHV Ford: 1975-97 370/429/460 trucks, high volume oil pump

Because there are many BBF 429/460 engines that have internal oil leaks around the lifters that with a high volum/high pressure type pump you end up making the leak around the lifters and down into the engine more severe.

A stock pump will not dump so much oil around the lifters, and it will help keep you from shearing the distributor gear pin.

If you check the lifter bores for size and out of round with an inside mic and find they are within .004 of factory specs you use a stock pump and you will be just fine. If things are worn beyond that, you can bad-aid the low oil pressure that is caused by this with a high vol pump, but the negative side is that you cause a rain storm in the crank case and create fantastic windage. The windage will absorb power as your crank beats thru this oil, and it will introduce air into oil and have a negative effect on the oils ability to cool the bearings. This is bad. I would hope that your lifter bores are good, and you can use a stock pump. With the low miles you say is on the block I think you should be good.

Work the EX ports on your head, the intake is fine as is aside from a port match. Us ethe website I linked you to above, it will be the best $25.00 you ever spent. Scott J's website is a BBF resource that is topped by none I have ever seen. Good luck man!
 
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