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Power output? The V-10s' real shortcoming is it's too small. It should be at least 8 liters (488 cu if you speak American)! At that displacement and with a little tuning, it ought to be able to put out at least 425 horsepower on 87 octane.
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From: On the farm near Loveland
Originally posted by Loyd Lucas
Power output? The V-10s' real shortcoming is it's too small. It should be at least 8 liters (488 cu if you speak American)! At that displacement and with a little tuning, it ought to be able to put out at least 425 horsepower on 87 octane.
Power output? The V-10s' real shortcoming is it's too small. It should be at least 8 liters (488 cu if you speak American)! At that displacement and with a little tuning, it ought to be able to put out at least 425 horsepower on 87 octane.
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You guys have NO real idea of how to create power do you??
I got 1-4 covered with power to spare. Trust me you can do it, it takes a little bit of your time and money. BTW it's cheaper than the diesel PLUS I still get 11.5 adverage MPG.
I got 1-4 covered with power to spare. Trust me you can do it, it takes a little bit of your time and money. BTW it's cheaper than the diesel PLUS I still get 11.5 adverage MPG.
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Heavy Assault: Can you share any of those tons of mods that work. Haven't much money to sink into it. But a little more torque could help when pulling 5th wheel. Have 3.73 rear end, automatic, 4x4, shortbed, everything stock except for K & P air filter.
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I will address what I feel are the best power mods for the V10.
It will be better if you decide which order, just as long as the goal is met.
Headers w/y-pipe( add in a set of venturris to prevent the low end power loss), FIPK ( or poor man's FIPK), BBK or ACCUFAB throttle body, chip or programmer ( I have had both HYPERTECH and the 1715 both work well).
For the cost I would recommend the BANKS KIT w/ the TB. I'd have to research the use of a programmer/chip with the BANKS kit.
If anyone is near TN and has the time, I'm willing to get together to allow you to drive my truck. The proof is here in TN, a V10 can and does make power.
I did not perform all the mods at one time, they were bought over a period of time.
For the cheapest route( no amount posted) I would suggest the poor man's FIPK using a K&N, and a programmer to start.
It will be better if you decide which order, just as long as the goal is met.
Headers w/y-pipe( add in a set of venturris to prevent the low end power loss), FIPK ( or poor man's FIPK), BBK or ACCUFAB throttle body, chip or programmer ( I have had both HYPERTECH and the 1715 both work well).
For the cost I would recommend the BANKS KIT w/ the TB. I'd have to research the use of a programmer/chip with the BANKS kit.
If anyone is near TN and has the time, I'm willing to get together to allow you to drive my truck. The proof is here in TN, a V10 can and does make power.
I did not perform all the mods at one time, they were bought over a period of time.
For the cheapest route( no amount posted) I would suggest the poor man's FIPK using a K&N, and a programmer to start.
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Oh, I don't know, I think I know how to make power. How's 395 rwhp on my '65 GTO with a 400 cu in motor? I ported the heads, chose the cam, and assembled the engine. The only thing I farmed out was the machine work. The motor is "zero" decked align bored with forged steel rods, forged aluminum pistons, and billet steel slpayed four bolt mains. It's a real dyed-in-the-wool Camaro killer! Kicks the crap out of Mustangs too!
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Since we are on the topic. I am a new owner of a 2004 F250 SD 4x4 CC SWB 3.73:1. I went with the V10 over the other motors based on price (A plan pricing). So far, I am very happy with the whole package.
I tow a 6800 lb boat and from day one, the truck has no problems with power. After viewing this forum, I got a wild hare(the rabbit) and installed a MAC 3.5" cold air system and a Magnaforce 2.5" exhaust w/3.5" chrome tip. Went to 285/75/16 tires on a 3.5" Fabtech leveling kit.
As it is setup now, it runs like a raped date. Is there more performance I can get from this motor? If so, what would be the best investment ?
Waha.
I tow a 6800 lb boat and from day one, the truck has no problems with power. After viewing this forum, I got a wild hare(the rabbit) and installed a MAC 3.5" cold air system and a Magnaforce 2.5" exhaust w/3.5" chrome tip. Went to 285/75/16 tires on a 3.5" Fabtech leveling kit.
As it is setup now, it runs like a raped date. Is there more performance I can get from this motor? If so, what would be the best investment ?
Waha.
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Can you describe this venturi concept in more detail. I'm not familiar with this on headers.........and has anyone else done this? I also thought that Borla and Banks had designed their headers to avoid low end torque loss?????? Thx
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Basically they are a reducer for the inside of the collector. They provide the backpressure that is lost due to increased air flow.
I run the BORLAs and this was discussed during a call to WHIPPLE about a SC and headers. After driving so long with the headers and then installing the reducer there was a change in the low end power.
I run the BORLAs and this was discussed during a call to WHIPPLE about a SC and headers. After driving so long with the headers and then installing the reducer there was a change in the low end power.
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HeavyAssault,
The main thing that's cramping my efforts is OBDII. It's much easier to make power with lotsa cubic inches on computer controlled motors. And that was my only complaint, the V-10 motor needs a bunch more cubes.
The same things make power on a computer controlled engine that make power on a carbureted engine, until you run up against the limits of OBDII or, usually, the injectors.
I am well aware that engines are just air pumps, and that more airflow makes more power if you can add the correct amount of fuel.
In the past, working on carbureted engines I had total control of my destiny, now I don't, and it irks the hell out of me, that's all.
The main thing that's cramping my efforts is OBDII. It's much easier to make power with lotsa cubic inches on computer controlled motors. And that was my only complaint, the V-10 motor needs a bunch more cubes.
The same things make power on a computer controlled engine that make power on a carbureted engine, until you run up against the limits of OBDII or, usually, the injectors.
I am well aware that engines are just air pumps, and that more airflow makes more power if you can add the correct amount of fuel.
In the past, working on carbureted engines I had total control of my destiny, now I don't, and it irks the hell out of me, that's all.