NAME calling/criticizing
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Re: NAME calling/criticizing
Originally posted by z 97ford1
Look, if a person can't take it then why not get out. I don't mind some name calling/criticizing. It causes one to look at their own view points. You want to call me a name.....I'm a big boy ,I can take it. If it gets to hot I'll leave.
Why can't we speak our mind? FREEDOM OF SPEACH
Look, if a person can't take it then why not get out. I don't mind some name calling/criticizing. It causes one to look at their own view points. You want to call me a name.....I'm a big boy ,I can take it. If it gets to hot I'll leave.
Why can't we speak our mind? FREEDOM OF SPEACH
I'm not going to knowingly keep discussing a topic with someone who cannot respect me as a person...and honestly, once they begin that my desire to want to talk to them and respect them goes out the window. If you are truely intrested in a topic, why would you disservice yourself by turning others off to what you have to say?
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Sinjin, I don't know this to be fact but I asume The N word, that we can not type much less say, started because some of those slaves came from African country Niger. I don't think it was invented as a derogitory term, yet developed into one as the years passed.
What about cracker? Hawaiians use to call me holle. That was invented as aprejorative term.
What about cracker? Hawaiians use to call me holle. That was invented as aprejorative term.
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Originally posted by haulingboat
Sinjin, I don't know this to be fact but I asume The N word, that we can not type much less say, started because some of those slaves came from African country Niger. I don't think it was invented as a derogitory term, yet developed into one as the years passed.
What about cracker? Hawaiians use to call me holle. That was invented as aprejorative term.
Sinjin, I don't know this to be fact but I asume The N word, that we can not type much less say, started because some of those slaves came from African country Niger. I don't think it was invented as a derogitory term, yet developed into one as the years passed.
What about cracker? Hawaiians use to call me holle. That was invented as aprejorative term.
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My Dad's 79 yr oad wife calls people: coloured.
I always ask her :" So what colour are they "?
She usually says: Black
Then I say: "Why don't you just say Black then ?"
Then I get the "eyes caught in the headlights look"
Wasn't the country originally called *Nigeria* changed to *Niger* or was it the other way around.
I can't keep up with all the countries that have changed their name.
I always ask her :" So what colour are they "?
She usually says: Black
Then I say: "Why don't you just say Black then ?"
Then I get the "eyes caught in the headlights look"
Wasn't the country originally called *Nigeria* changed to *Niger* or was it the other way around.
I can't keep up with all the countries that have changed their name.
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Dennis,
Two different countries. Niger and Nigeria. They do share a common border and may have at one time been one country though so I'm not sure.
Two different countries. Niger and Nigeria. They do share a common border and may have at one time been one country though so I'm not sure.
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Originally posted by drunkenmonk
I believe the N word is derived from "negro"
I believe the N word is derived from "negro"
haulingboat,
I'd say neither haole nor cracker carry the venom of the others.
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Originally posted by sinjin
From the Spanish that is correct.
haulingboat,
I'd say neither haole nor cracker carry the venom of the others.
From the Spanish that is correct.
haulingboat,
I'd say neither haole nor cracker carry the venom of the others.
What is the basis of your scale for judging such words?
Where does it set in stone that "the word" came from negro.
Suppossing it did, does it make my original point any less valid.
They are just words. Its up to the speaker to dictate the intent behind them.
Now my freedom to not only speak the word but to type it as well has been taken.
Last edited by haulingboat; Jan 7, 2004 at 02:56 PM.
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Haulingboat,
I don't see how anyone has prevented you from using these words, or any words, any time you want, your 1st Amendment right is still pleny intact, adn the courts aren't about to tell you you can't anytime soon. (FTE being a private meeting place, is exempt from these rules, it's owners have the right to decide what is and is not acceptable content)
The part you don't seem to like is that there are consequences and connotations to these words. To be frank - tough. The majority, or in some cases the minority, gets to decide on the meaning and connotation of some words, not you. You are aware of them and their connotations before hand, use them accordingly, or be prepared for the consequences.
Waxy
I don't see how anyone has prevented you from using these words, or any words, any time you want, your 1st Amendment right is still pleny intact, adn the courts aren't about to tell you you can't anytime soon. (FTE being a private meeting place, is exempt from these rules, it's owners have the right to decide what is and is not acceptable content)
The part you don't seem to like is that there are consequences and connotations to these words. To be frank - tough. The majority, or in some cases the minority, gets to decide on the meaning and connotation of some words, not you. You are aware of them and their connotations before hand, use them accordingly, or be prepared for the consequences.
Waxy
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Originally posted by haulingboat
What is the basis of your scale for judging such words?
What is the basis of your scale for judging such words?
Where does it set in stone that "the word" came from negro.
They are just words. Its up to the speaker to dictate the intent behind them.
And as far as the speaker determining the intent of the words spoken you are correct. The problem is that it is the listener who determines the meaning and message of the speakers words. An older man might call the young guy on the job "kid" with no negative intent and still offend a young man who thinks himself a grown man and not a "kid". Who could have avoided the offense taken more easily? Substitute "boy" for "kid" and apply it to a black man and I think you get the idea. Unless you're just stupid.
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I've worked at lots of power plants (mostly TVA) and have seen many a foreman refer to his crewmen as "boys", eg: "...you boys roll out the torches, you boys bend up the tubes", etc, and the only guys I saw take offense were those who came to the job with a chip on their shoulder. I've got a brother-in-law who calls the guys on his crews "girls", so that everyone is offended equally, and no one is left out.