351M vs. 460
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351M vs. 460
Hi all,
Well ,the 351M is out of the truck. It needs a rear main seal, and an intake gasket set. It's rusty, but runs pretty good. Maybe 70K miles.
I'm on a super tight budget, 'cause the Galaxie needs attention, too, and I just got engaged. So, here's my thoughts:
Pop in my semi-fresh 460. Engine mounts, headers, and oil pan set will cost me $700 or so, plus P/S mount........what else will I need? Cheapie mufflers for the fenderwell headers, too.
Clean up the 351M. New timing set, gaskets, and exhaust (stock is rusted completely, gone). Maybe a cam & lifters, and a 4V intake & carb? Would the extra $400 be worth it?
I'd like to drive this thing to work every day, but I have my little Ranger as a back up. I'd plow with it, and tow my cars around when necessary. The 460 was always my intention, but money is scarce right now. Used swap parts are what I really need!!
What do you guys think?
Well ,the 351M is out of the truck. It needs a rear main seal, and an intake gasket set. It's rusty, but runs pretty good. Maybe 70K miles.
I'm on a super tight budget, 'cause the Galaxie needs attention, too, and I just got engaged. So, here's my thoughts:
Pop in my semi-fresh 460. Engine mounts, headers, and oil pan set will cost me $700 or so, plus P/S mount........what else will I need? Cheapie mufflers for the fenderwell headers, too.
Clean up the 351M. New timing set, gaskets, and exhaust (stock is rusted completely, gone). Maybe a cam & lifters, and a 4V intake & carb? Would the extra $400 be worth it?
I'd like to drive this thing to work every day, but I have my little Ranger as a back up. I'd plow with it, and tow my cars around when necessary. The 460 was always my intention, but money is scarce right now. Used swap parts are what I really need!!
What do you guys think?
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I've battled this many many times in my mind and when my clutch went out last winter I rebuilt the 400. Was that the right move ???? I don't know!!! What I do know is that every body and there brother has put the 460 in there trucks. I'm happy with what I've got.
If you stay with the 351m convert it to a 400 and do the mods in the 351 forum and I think you'll be happy
You probally wern't lookig for an opinion but there both good.
I regret selling my 63 1/2 galaxie 500 XL
If you stay with the 351m convert it to a 400 and do the mods in the 351 forum and I think you'll be happy
You probally wern't lookig for an opinion but there both good.
I regret selling my 63 1/2 galaxie 500 XL
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I'm leaning toward the 351 freshening. Does the timing set make sense, at least? I've read there is much power & economy to be gained from a timing chain that can be installed "straight up" vs. 4 degress retarded.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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I've got a new 351m. If there is something that can be done to gain fuel economy, go for it! I have to tell you, though, if more power is needed from an engine than what my truck does, I can't imagine what it would be needed for. Are you towing something?
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a Comp cams 255DEH cam AND new valve springs
a '70 351C timeing chain
4V intake and carb.
headers
should get it around 300 hp and 350 tq, problely more.
a '70 351C timeing chain
4V intake and carb.
headers
should get it around 300 hp and 350 tq, problely more.
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Nothing; just put it in last week. The engine I replaced, you could almost see the gas needle going down.
My carb is brand new, too.
(I've got 2 different user names)
My carb is brand new, too.
(I've got 2 different user names)
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IMOP, i would say stay with the 351m, just freshen it up, stick with the 2bbl. if you need something that makes a little bit ( speaking in relative terms ) of power, yet still has some fuel economy, that is your best bet.
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