My point exactly. Once the valve covers are off and the fuel rail removed, the actual removal and replacement of the injectors is very simple and quick.

 

Using the same logic you all have been expressing, it would seem that your suggesting that whenever Ford performs any diagnositics procedure that, whether they find a problem or not, they should just replace the parts they were attempting to diagnose. i.e. if they have reason to open the engine up to check for leaking injectors and find none they should replace them all because they are already there.

Now I know my truck has the C95 injectors hence I'm not affected as much by the injector problems (1-10 failure rate vs 1-100 failure rate - personally I believe a 1-100 failure rate is too high but it all depends on hour many hours until failure)...... Anyway, if I think into future and lets presume I have an injector failure after warranty expires I'd be hard pressed to spend an extra $2,000 to replace all the injectors in my truck - just because the tech just so happens to have the valve covers off at the moment......

On the other had I'd agree that it might be in Ford's best interest, customer service wise, to just replace the injectors to address the concern and to mitigate future risk if the failure rate is really that high but that's their decision. I guess what I'm saying is if you wouldn't be willing to replace all of your injectors in the event one failed - why expect more of Ford?

 

Ford replaced them in there own trucks, See, I think if you had a bran new truck with C94's you would be singing a different tune.

I had 5 replaced at 311 miles 2 days down in the shop(my time)without my truck.

Now there is fuel in the oil and it's in the shop @ 6,600 2 day and counting (my time)without a truck.

Now how much damage is to the engine? how long will it run?

8 out of 8 BAD and I'm left wondering are the rod/main bearings OK, is the turbo going to come apart and send all that metal in to the engine. Y didn't ford replace all the injectors

 

I can guarantee you that if I find diesel fuel in my oil, when they go in there to find and replace the bad injector(s), I'll have them all replaced even at my expense for the ones that haven't failed yet. I bought this truck with the idea of running it until the wheels fall off, which is one of the main reasons for going Diesel. Since I know that I have injectors which have a high failure rate, and the techs have to go in there anyway, I'd rather pony up the $$ to make sure my engine doesn't take a powder in the near future. I've had really good luck with diesels in tractors, bulldozers and fishing boats and firmly believe that if I keep the air clean, the oil changed and the fuel clean, I should be able to expect the same thing from this one.

 

vellinggapa I under stand the point your making but put yourself in cdtruckns shoes with what he is facing and dealing with and I think you too would strive for more than these bandaid fixs that Ford seems to be pushing on people. Look around and you will see this is not an isolated case but instead is an ongoing issue so long as Ford refuses to recall all c94 injectors. I dont feel its an unreasonable request to have all injectors replaced even if its only one leaking due to the fact that at that point you as the owner have already made a huge sacrifice in time, money(rental?), and the overall longevity (miles?) of your engine and all this comes to past because ford dosnt recall a part that they clearly know is defective. I to wouldnt be stressed to have all changed if I had the good injectors because the odds are you probably would not experance another failure. But I'm in the boat with the rest of us C94 owners on this issue and I will forever keep beating the drum on this issue till it is resolved or I change trucks!

 

I WENT TO A FREIGHTLINER DEALERSHIP (REAL MECHANICS)YESTERDAY AND SPOKE TO THE SERVICE MANAGER JUST TO GET SOME INPUTS. HE SAID, THE WORSE THING COULD HAPPEN TO A VEHICLE WITH A FUEL IN THE OIL ARE,, OIL GET THIN FASTER, FUEL/OIL MIX TO THE TURBO AND CAN DAMAGE THE SEAL AND THE ENGINE CAN GO AWALL FROM A DEAD STOP.RPM CAN GO TO THE MAX AND MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE VEHICLE. SO ADVICE YOUR OLD LADY'S WHAT TO DO IN CASE THIS HAPPEN.

 

He forgot to mention the part where the bearing don't get enough proper lubrication and burn up. Or the part where the engine hydraulics and bends all sorts of important things.

 

Freightliner Mechanics. HAHAHAHA

 

i wasn't going to say anything..... (hehehehehe)

 

I have noticed the oil level slightly rising on my dip stick and a strong odor of fuel on it. Also have strong fumes inside Cab. Went in later to talk to the tech who informed me there is nothing wrong with it. He said the oil level was normal and there was no cause to investigate any further. So now I have to take it home, change the oil to get a sample and send it to a lab so I can prove them wrong. Also showed him the secret injector recall that is on the blueovalnews.com. He laughed and said they don't know what they are talking about because fuel can't leak past the plunger. Any suggestions?

 

Foregot to mention one thing. I use to work in a large manufacturing plant. When a supplier furnished us with faulty parts, they were the ones that ate the cost for a recall or rework. So, if this is to true for FMC. I would say Navistar or their injector supplier should be responsible for recall cost.

 

First, find a new tech. Second, Ive said before, I'm sure Ford gets reimbursed from Navistar for warranty work on the 6.0.

 

I wouldn't take that crap. I would go to the Service Manager and call Ford Customer Relations. The number is in your Owners Manual.

 

Wow, Big DITTO!!!!!!, my mgr would have my butt.....try a different dealer, this is a known problem....

 

SBV45. I agree with Andy, find another dealer, and send the oil off for analysis, It only costs $20, and i ssure worth it. I just got my 20,000 mile check back from the lab, and it really eased my mind! I'll have it tested every change from now on.