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Difference between injectors, old vs. new
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Originally posted by International Tech
by pressurizing the system w/ air. Most of the time you see the leaking ones. Of ourse the valve covers are off. You can also use dye as well.
by pressurizing the system w/ air. Most of the time you see the leaking ones. Of ourse the valve covers are off. You can also use dye as well.
10 miutes of 20 or...
remeber you have tested and now just to change one
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If you have to remove the oil rail to get to the injectors it seems like Ford could solve a lot of issues in the same area. Go in and replace all c94 injectors to reduce chance of fule leaks and reasemble using new style oil rails that would solve idle problems and after all that, they could give us are pilot injection back. Sounds simple right? FORD NEEDS TO RECALL ALL C94 INJECTORS!!!
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Originally posted by International Tech
sorry about that, around 20-30 minutes. Forgot you have to remove the oil rail.
sorry about that, around 20-30 minutes. Forgot you have to remove the oil rail.
PLEASE do not take this wrong.....how sure are you of these times, we both know were I am going with this. I am not questioning you knowledge, I just need to get this correct.
Would you say that 90% of time is in getting to....the injector it’s self… just to test for leaks and 10% to change each one.
This is incredibly important to have this clear.The analogy would be like the old small block Chevy, if you needed to change a lifter (and not go through the pushrod hole) you have got the intake off and all........you were sitting right in front of all 16...........then why not!!!
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pretty sure seeing how as ive been underneath the valve covers of this engine(diff vehicles) several times.and was one of the 1st to go to Int'l engine school for this engine. Hardest part is getting to the injectors and the diagnosis. The driverside is the bigger of the PITA's because of the location of the ECM/IDM on Internationals and the Engineers just love making lives difficult for the techs. These injectors are easier to replace (once you get past the valve covers) than the 7.3 or T444E. The hold down bolts actually pulls injector up w/ it while you are loosening it. I have mixed emotions about the location of the Oil Rails. Its not hard at all to remove just more time consuming to replace the top o-rings on all injectors where oil rail sits on top of them just to remove one injector.
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Originally posted by International Tech
pretty sure seeing how as ive been underneath the valve covers of this engine(diff vehicles) several times.and was one of the 1st to go to Int'l engine school for this engine. Hardest part is getting to the injectors and the diagnosis. The driverside is the bigger of the PITA's because of the location of the ECM/IDM on Internationals and the Engineers just love making lives difficult for the techs. These injectors are easier to replace (once you get past the valve covers) than the 7.3 or T444E. The hold down bolts actually pulls injector up w/ it while you are loosening it.
pretty sure seeing how as ive been underneath the valve covers of this engine(diff vehicles) several times.and was one of the 1st to go to Int'l engine school for this engine. Hardest part is getting to the injectors and the diagnosis. The driverside is the bigger of the PITA's because of the location of the ECM/IDM on Internationals and the Engineers just love making lives difficult for the techs. These injectors are easier to replace (once you get past the valve covers) than the 7.3 or T444E. The hold down bolts actually pulls injector up w/ it while you are loosening it.
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what is the best way to check if there is fuel in the oil? i know about the smell and over filling dip stick. my oil looks like there is a dye in it cause there is a funny looking applegreen color on it. i have 6.0psd X 02/03 build, kentaky plant.
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those are basically the right ways too check for fuel in oil without sending off to a lab for testing. Im positive that if you are getting fuel in your oil you would definately notice it. BTW, that does sound like dye in your oil. Is that a brand new truck? If not, is Ford dealer checking for something?
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Tim, this sounds like what i thought before: Once you get to the injectors themselves, the actual time to replace each on is minimal. FMC just doesn't want to bite the bullet and admit they have a problem. The actual cost to Ford to replace them all at once is probably less than replacing one, then having to go back and do it again if another fails.
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Originally posted by Hjudge49
Tim, this sounds like what i thought before: Once you get to the injectors themselves, the actual time to replace each on is minimal. FMC just doesn't want to bite the bullet and admit they have a problem. The actual cost to Ford to replace them all at once is probably less than replacing one, then having to go back and do it again if another fails.
Tim, this sounds like what i thought before: Once you get to the injectors themselves, the actual time to replace each on is minimal. FMC just doesn't want to bite the bullet and admit they have a problem. The actual cost to Ford to replace them all at once is probably less than replacing one, then having to go back and do it again if another fails.
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I keep reading the part about Ford Recalling all the injectors in dealer inventory, but I undestood that they didn't actually swap out the old for the new on the vehicles in dealer stock. ....
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What really doesnt make sense is Fords willingness to repeatedly exposing our engines to internal damage by only replacing the c94 injectors that leak instead of doing them all while the engine is opened up. If you take your truck in for a leaky one how much harder could it be to change all at that point?