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Originally posted by DailyDriver
Another is that the U.S. army had Saddam all along and the army brought him out to give president Bush a boost in ratings at the right time when many democratic contenders are bad mouthing Bush on the war in Iraq. Along those same lines, some there believe that Osama Bin Laden is captive and will "suddenly be captured" just before the Nov. presidental elections to give Bush another boost in ratings.
I like Bush but actually agree with the Osama part of this is possible.
If we did off Saddam or O. B. L. early on- the motivation for the american people to stay at war would wane- especially with mounting war causalties.
So IMHO- it is possible to play the bad guys to your advantage- and might even be a good idea war stradegy wise.
Originally posted by jeffthompson I like Bush but actually agree with the Osama part of this is possible.
If we did off Saddam or O. B. L. early on- the motivation for the american people to stay at war would wane- especially with mounting war causalties.
So IMHO- it is possible to play the bad guys to your advantage- and might even be a good idea war stradegy wise.
I feel its very possible, but I hope you're wrong.If we do have OBL in custody,why should we stay at war, isn't that the reason we went to war in the first place ?I'm glad you feel it is a good idea for your government to lie to you,but I disagree.when someone lies to you and you find out, do you ever realy trust them after that ? to me it seems like cutting off our own nose to spite our face.
I heard the Saddam story the day BEFORE they captured him. Some guy was on one of those talk radio stations saying he knew that he had been captured already and was being held, interrogated and when the time was right, he'd be "found". The same guy said the same about OBL, saying he expected him to be "found" in late September, early October. At the time I just blew it off, funny, the very next day.....
I don't know about the missile and pentagon theory. That is too far fetched for me.
Originally posted by drunkenmonk I feel its very possible, but I hope you're wrong.If we do have OBL in custody,why should we stay at war, isn't that the reason we went to war in the first place ?I'm glad you feel it is a good idea for your government to lie to you,but I disagree.when someone lies to you and you find out, do you ever realy trust them after that ? to me it seems like cutting off our own nose to spite our face.
I don't think we have OBL. Our goverment isn't that smart and they aren't that stupid. It would be too big of a risk. If it was looking like Bush was going to be beat I could maybe see someone trying this, but that would be a stretch. As long as OBL is believed to be out there, the terriorsts groups will hold out hope. If he is caught their hope will wain somewhat.
I would be more inclined to believe that OBL is dead. Even if we caught him we would still be at war. OBL was not the end all terrisom is. (of course we can never stop that, it is kind of like the war on poverty, not winnable)
How many resources are freed up because we have Saddam? How many more would be freed once OBL is found?
So, any Republican consipiracies out their. The only one I can think of at the moment was that Clinton bombed the asprin factory to deflect attention from Monica.
I could understand them holding Sadam for a day or so untill they were positive they had him, before announcing it. thats better than having to print a retraction saying we thought we had him, but were mistaken.
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speaking of conspiricies,did anyone watch the self- contradicting show on JFK last night, hosted by non-other than peter jennings. the story was so full of wrong info and incorrect time lines , it became a joke. best quote was from LBJ's adviser;" even LBJ didnt truly believe the Warren report, and that Oswald did not act alone".
Originally posted by cid473 speaking of conspiricies,did anyone watch the self- contradicting show on JFK last night, hosted by non-other than peter jennings. the story was so full of wrong info and incorrect time lines , it became a joke. best quote was from LBJ's adviser;" even LBJ didnt truly believe the Warren report, and that Oswald did not act alone".
I watched that special.... what a joke! Although it was good entertainment on a very Snowy sunday evening. 28 inches of snow in 4 days and still going. Maybe it has something to do with that weather control machine in Alaska..... Somebody up there got mad at us in Utah for the whole wolf episode a few days ago in this forum! haha
What makes you think Oswald wasn't the only shooter? I have seen a lot of shows where "experts" on both sides have analyzed the Zapruder film. If just going off of that film, I would have to believe that Oswald did fire the first throat shot and the final head shot.
the back of your head doesnt explode outward from a rear shot, the front does. try shooting a watermellon and see what happens. watermellon has same consistancy as a human head.
So, any Republican consipiracies out their. The only one I can think of at the moment was that Clinton bombed the asprin factory to deflect attention from Monica.
That wouldn't really be a conspiracy theory- its the truth...
There's always the one that Vince Foster was murdered in the White House on Clintons orders and dumped in the park.
Or that the Dept of Commerce Sec. Ron Brown's plane was sabotaged and crashed (Bosnia) in order for Clinton to cover his tracks.
Originally posted by cid473 the back of your head doesnt explode outward from a rear shot, the front does. try shooting a watermellon and see what happens. watermellon has same consistancy as a human head.
Well, from what I saw, his head exploded upwards. Meaning that the top rear of this head blew upward. It looks a bit like the rear is the exit, but remember they are in a moving, open top car. It is all going to 'splash' to the rear, wind resistance you know. I also saw the show where they took human skulls, stuffed them with cow brains and meat, shot at them with the same caliber, at the same distance, at the same height. Each head exploded at the top and flew backwards. Geez, I hope I'm not watermellon for brains.
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