[updated:LAST EDITED ON 12-Nov-02 AT 01:56 PM (EST)]>OK, I'm going to drop the rest of the BS and come back to
>this one.

Excellent idea, I agree 100%




I thought that manually engaging the hubs from
>the outside would "override" any other auto features,
>including the switch? If ESOF fails, you can't just "force"
>it by locking? Hmmmm.... I think I'm going to go out on the
>driveway, leave the switch in 2WD mode and engage the
>manuals. I'll let you know.


No, your hubs may work perfectly, but if your switch/button doesn't or the actuator motor doesnt engage your T case, you have no "4x4" By manualy "locking" your hubs, your only engaging your front axle shafts, not the entire front drivetrain.

 

Makes sense now. But i'm still keeping my ESOF...

 

I'm afraid that I have to side with Yeti and FortyFords (and the rest of the non-ESOF crowd) on this one.....

I had ESOF on my '92 f150. I only put around 5K a year on it and after about 5 years the ESOF started working very eradicallly. The only way I could depend on the whole ESOF system to work properly was to go out and put it in 4X4 high and 4X4 low every week or two.

Otherwise I would have a failure somewhere along the line (the motor wouldn't turn - hit it with a hammer until it responded :-( , the relays wouldn't pick - remove the glove box and tap them w/a screwdriver until they responded , the hubs wouldn't lock - rock back and forth between D and R until they decided to lock in , etc.).

As was pointed out earlier, there is a lot more to ESOF than auto locking hubs.

That is why on my F250SD, I got the manual TCase and hubs. A dependable 4X4 system is a heck of a lot more convienent than one that isn't working properly. :-X23

Gary M.

White 2002 F250 SD, SC, SB, 4x4, 6.8L v10, 3.73LS, 4spd Auto, Reverse Aid Sensor, Class IV Hitch, Offroad Package, Manual Hubs, 40/20/40 Bench Seat, Camper Package, Lariat, Putco Locker Side Rails, Mud Flaps, K&N Filter, Vent Visors...

White 2002 Ranger 4x2 3.0L V6 XLT 2 door supercab with the power group, auto, chrome wheels, mud flaps, body side molding, vent visors, and the 60/40 bench seat as my daily driver

 

>Makes sense now. But i'm still keeping my ESOF...


No!! Im comming over there right now with a sawzall and my torch, cutting your ESOF out and replacing it will full manual!!!!!

Everbody has a different application for their 4X4's, mine (plowing in the winter), I just feel more comfortable with my setup.
I'm not saying ESOF is unreliable, just more prone to malfunction, thats it, nothing more.

Also, I appologize for any comments that I might of made, it is not personal at all, and actually looked forward to your next post.

Welcome to FTE

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 12-Nov-02 AT 03:03 PM (EST)]>No!! Im comming over there right now with a sawzall and my
>torch, cutting your ESOF out and replacing it will full
>manual!!!!!

If you're coming over, bring a leaf blower or a really big rake. I think I'll put you to work on the lawn a while... while you're at it, the gutters could use a cleaning too. But if you go near the truck, FTE member or not, the 12 gauge is coming out. I treat my truck like I treat my women, and I never let another man handle my girls.

By the way Yeti -- I've read quite a few of your posts on various topics, and (sigh) look forward to reading yours as well. I actually knew you by reputation from all the reading I did on FTE before I signed up & started posting myself. But enough of the mushy stuff! :P

I still think discounting ESOF is comporable to saying "never buy an automatic tranny, power windows, air conditioning, power steering..." Like you said, though, opposing opinions keeps things interesting. Who whas it that said "variety is the spice of life."

Now then -- does anyone know what it takes to convert manual 4x4 to ESOF? I'd like to do it to Yeti's truck one night while he's sleeping just to **** him off! Contributions to this endeavour will be appreciated; please let me know if you can provide:
(1) all balck outfits for sneaking around in the dark
(2) ESOF components
(3) sleep inducing gas to make sure Yeti's asleep during the whole process
(4) tools & experience in performing the swap

 

>Now then -- does anyone know what it takes to convert manual
>4x4 to ESOF? I'd like to do it to Yeti's truck one night
>while he's sleeping just to **** him off!
>Contributions to this endeavour will be appreciated; please
>let me know if you can provide:
>(1) all balck outfits for sneaking around in the dark
>(2) ESOF components
>(3) sleep inducing gas to make sure Yeti's asleep during the
>whole process
>(4) tools & experience in performing the swap



Heck, I bet Monsta would even give you a hand!! Just don't mess up the driveway, the wife will kill me again!!
Easy work for you guys, considering it doesn't fit in my garage.

 

WOW...It goes from question to flame to love story. This is better then "DAYS OF OUR LIVES"..

 

Tune in next week to see what happens when CB & Monsta square off -- CB calls Monsta's eXcursion an overgrown SUV on steroids, and Monsta responds by having a grill from an eXcursion & a bed cap welded on CB's 250. Will the calamity in truckville explode into an all-out bruhaha , or will Monsta & CB find they have one very important trait in common (owners of Ford trucks) and resolve their differences ? Only one place you can find out... Join us next week on "As the Ford Turns" to find out.


P.S. -- What's this I hear about Monsta & pink panties? Gonna' have to search the threads later for that...

 

>P.S. -- What's this I hear about Monsta & pink panties?
>Gonna' have to search the threads later for that...

Ever since Monsta slapped me with that gag order, I can't comment.
But I'm sure some others may

 

I feel very honored to have a post that received THREE pages of discussion My ESOF is just fine, I was just bored one day so I thought would post something a little different:-staun

No, actually...for real....I really was stuck for a while. After reading all the posts, I am realizing that the ESOF on my S/D just seems a little more sluggish than my F-150. On the F-150, the ESOF hooks right up, but on my S/D it is a little slower, but seems to work just fine. Thanks for all the responses, I am much more informed now than I was.

 

So, the ESOF debate was actually your fault CeeJay? That's it! I'm coming over right now and towing your jeep away!:7

 

I cringe when I see this post at the top of the forum, almost afraid to click on it.

 

>I cringe when I see this post at the top of the forum,
>almost afraid to click on it.
That aint no joke!

 

>Tune in next week to see what happens when CB & Monsta
>square off -- CB calls Monsta's eXcursion an
>overgrown SUV on steroids, and Monsta responds by having a
>grill from an eXcursion & a bed cap welded on CB's 250.
>Will the calamity in truckville explode into an all-out
>bruhaha , or will Monsta & CB find they have one
>very important trait in common (owners of Ford trucks) and
>resolve their differences ? Only one place you can
>find out... Join us next week on "As the Ford Turns" to
>find out.

If he does that I will have know choice but to have forty get the chainsaw and head to the Monsta's house...And then to my house to cut that crap back off so I can go trade it in on an 03 (I would get near the trade in off a Soccer Bus).

 

>So, the ESOF debate was actually your fault CeeJay? That's
>it! I'm coming over right now and towing your jeep away!:7
>
Well at least the JEEP has manual hubs! So no ESOF problems there thankfully.