View Poll Results: Prayer in School?
Prayer shouldn't be allowed
7
36.84%
Prayer should be allowed
10
52.63%
I don't care either way
2
10.53%
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Prayer in School?
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From: South Dakota
Originally posted by whistler
If somebody was being obtrusive about praying (ya know, picking up a snake or screaming in tongues) I could see how they would be punished.
I do agree that students shouldn't be 'persecuted' for sitting in their desks with head bowed and hands folded. To do so implies a serious lack of respect for personal dignity. I think these types of situations are rare, but easily grab headlines.
I can also see where teachers or administrators can go overboard though. In this sue-happy society allowing a student to pray could be seen as sanctioning their prayer and some parent could get pissed and cause mountains of grief because of the 'mental anguish' their precious child endured. I would bet most administrators in these situations are trying to err on the side of caution rather than acting out of a belief that school prayer is wrong. Most, but not all.
Whistler
If somebody was being obtrusive about praying (ya know, picking up a snake or screaming in tongues) I could see how they would be punished.
I do agree that students shouldn't be 'persecuted' for sitting in their desks with head bowed and hands folded. To do so implies a serious lack of respect for personal dignity. I think these types of situations are rare, but easily grab headlines.
I can also see where teachers or administrators can go overboard though. In this sue-happy society allowing a student to pray could be seen as sanctioning their prayer and some parent could get pissed and cause mountains of grief because of the 'mental anguish' their precious child endured. I would bet most administrators in these situations are trying to err on the side of caution rather than acting out of a belief that school prayer is wrong. Most, but not all.
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Originally posted by haulingboat
Whistler does that five minute period exist? It didn't where I went to school.
Whistler does that five minute period exist? It didn't where I went to school.
At any rate, I don't think school sanctioned prayer is very prevalent anywhere (except parochial schools).
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From: Detroit Subs
Originally posted by haulingboat
The government should not be allowed to say you can or you can not. If you want to pray then pray. If you don't want to pray then don't.
One nation under god is not to much to ask.
The government should not be allowed to say you can or you can not. If you want to pray then pray. If you don't want to pray then don't.
One nation under god is not to much to ask.
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From: Calgary Canada
Originally posted by superrangerman2002
Absolutely nothing, but who are you to say they can't?
Absolutely nothing, but who are you to say they can't?
If a student wants to take a break in the middle of his/her assignment/lecture and pray for their ailing aunt or the answers to the questions, I have no problem with that, it's his/her decision, and it's up to them to determine how to best use their time.
I admit that I have mudded this poll up, as per my previous statement, the intention of this poll is to see the views of prayers in school (whatever, whenever they may be), and wether they should be allowed, and nothing more.
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From: Buffalo, Minnesota
When I went to public elementary school every Wednesday we had to line up according to our religious brand and then we would walk to our respective churches for religious instruction. It pretty well took up the entire morning.
A native American boy sat in front of me throughout elementary school. One day he turned around and said to me, "I don't believe any of that religious stuff." I was shocked out of my gourd to know a person who would burn in hell.
Who put those thoughts in my head at that age?
A native American boy sat in front of me throughout elementary school. One day he turned around and said to me, "I don't believe any of that religious stuff." I was shocked out of my gourd to know a person who would burn in hell.
Who put those thoughts in my head at that age?
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From: Los Angeles safe and warm
Originally posted by 4rdsrock
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
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Originally posted by 4rdsrock
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
This is precisely the reason why there should not be time set aside for prayer in schools.
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From: N. Florida - The "No 4x4
Originally posted by 4rdsrock
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
CT FUZZY,
Prayer should be aloud in school!, That is what Unites us all in Christ. Prayer is a direct line to God.
If you think different, than I pray what you realize your saying is wrong.
'cause this one said nothing of the sort. Not even close.
Read before you leap. Please.
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From: N. Florida - The "No 4x4
Originally posted by sinjin
What if you're a Jew or a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Hindu?
What if you're a Jew or a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Hindu?
You trouble maker! We already know the answer to that.
"keep a bag of marshmallows handy - cause your gonna be near a LOT-o-fire when you die."
Really now, what arrrre you thinkin ?!?
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From: Lenexa, KS
This thread is a perfect example of why prayer should be removed from school. Some want it, some don't. For that reason alone, it becomes a distraction and detracts from the purpose of educational institutions. Since there are so many religions, let the parents teach religion to their children. I happen to be Catholic, and like Sinjin I went to Catholic school all my life. When parents send kids to denominational schools, they are paying for the religious education. For public schools, I think they should concentrate on the basics: reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. Personally speaking, nothing has ever stopped me from saying a little prayer (silently), whenever I wanted to.
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From: Detroit Subs
Originally posted by jskufan
This thread is a perfect example of why prayer should be removed from school. Some want it, some don't. For that reason alone, it becomes a distraction and detracts from the purpose of educational institutions. Since there are so many religions, let the parents teach religion to their children. I happen to be Catholic, and like Sinjin I went to Catholic school all my life. When parents send kids to denominational schools, they are paying for the religious education. For public schools, I think they should concentrate on the basics: reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. Personally speaking, nothing has ever stopped me from saying a little prayer (silently), whenever I wanted to.
This thread is a perfect example of why prayer should be removed from school. Some want it, some don't. For that reason alone, it becomes a distraction and detracts from the purpose of educational institutions. Since there are so many religions, let the parents teach religion to their children. I happen to be Catholic, and like Sinjin I went to Catholic school all my life. When parents send kids to denominational schools, they are paying for the religious education. For public schools, I think they should concentrate on the basics: reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. Personally speaking, nothing has ever stopped me from saying a little prayer (silently), whenever I wanted to.