Yep, Quigley is in Pennsylvania, so there are alot of them out there on the east coast. But wowzers, they want alot of money for their conversion.

Hey we have the same idiotic mentally out here on the left coast too amigo. It's not region specific by any stretch of the imagination. We don't get much snow here in Portland Oregon but when we do, those 'invincible' guys are the first guys who wind up in the ditches. 4WD gives great starting power, but there's still that old friction principle, and just four tires on the snow trying to stop 3 tons of moving vehicle won't work. You can only stop as fast as you can accelerate in the snow/ice, and normally in the dry it's three times as fast stopping as accelerating.

I doubt there's a person on earth who hasn't lost it in snow, not if they drive with any bravado at all. So yea man, I've slid off the road quite a few times, mostly when I was younger and was very much dumber than I think I am now. But many of my 'offs' were when I was actually off road, and playing snowmobile with my Ford 4X4. But, knock on wood I've never had an off that ended up upside down in a ditch, or wrapped around a telephone pole or anything. I was stopped dead in the middle of a freeway once because there was a wreck ahead of me, and got plowed into from behind by a Ford 4X4 pick-up going 60 mph. I am still thankful I was in my wife's S-class Mercedes, or I would have been dead. Cars are built alot better now than they ever have been as far as crash resistance, but there aint nothing on earth built like a Mercedes Benz, nothing. (IMHO of course)

Wow, this post got a bit long winded didn't it ? My apologies to all.

 

I live in Juneau Alaska and have the same setup, shortbed ex cab V-10. I still have the stock firestones and it does fine. I dont run any weight in the bed or have anything else to add weight.

 

The snow in Alaska is stickier than we get in the lower 48.

 

I didn't know redneckitis had made it's way out to long island... or even if beer bottles in the back of the truck was even legal out there. What about the real estate value? Oh my, there goes the neighborhood.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

If you looked at my yard, saw the '74 F250 and the fact that most of my grass is weeds, you'd realize I was a wanna-be redneck...

Houses around here are going for $300K +

 

Yep, I've been out there several times. I do some expedite delivery of log home parts and deliver outdoor gazebo's for some mennonite (amish) guys. Most of the ones I deliver are in broken down kit forms so they can be erected in the back yard. I've been as far out as the Hamptons, Deer Park and Ronkokoma several times.

Last year delivered one to the Seargent of Securuty at the United Nations building somewhere around Bethpage. He had a 28 X 44 cape style house with a garage and built in Patio and informed me of the property values out there. It was a "Redneck" page out of "urban cowboy" when a friend and I "cruised" Manhatten for about 3 hours Friday night before the delivery in my '87 F350 4X4 Crew towing a 12 foot open trailer loaded with a gazebo kit with victorian 2 level roof topping it off. I got a few looks.

Hey, but this is about V10's in the snow..... sorry to get off topic. I Personally dont' think the weight difference of the V-10 over the diesel would make much of a difference. As mentioned 235''s rather than 265's and weather or not you have posi in the front or rear or both would IMO make a bigger difference. Adding weight in the bed (just in front of the wheel wells IMO) would help also. I think that maybe, any advantage the diesels have with weight in the front end is maybe offset with the extra lightness they may have in the rear end. I don't have experience with diesels, but I know that my truck with the 460 is plenty light enough in the back end without any weight.

Tony

 

Cruising Manhattan with that, you're lucky you didn't get stopped and ticketed/fined by the NYPD. They can get a little funny with trucks carrying stuff that is not destined for Manhattan, and unless someone was building a gazebo on the roof of their penthouse, I can't imagine you getting any sympathy

I have the Traction-Lok in the rear (Sterling 10.5) and I don't think it's an asset at speed in 4x4. The rear tends to slip around a little more than I would like. And weight is an asset, I've tried it. Although, with the SB SC, I'm not very light in the back a few hundred pounds plus the cab-height cap add enough.

The day I originally mentioned was rather bad traction. Lots of SUV's with a closer front-to-back weight ratio were rear-sliding around like nothing, and I was OK. But, they all had 50-series tires on 17-18" rims... I saw a Jeep Wrangler the other day with what must have been 20"+ rims and tires that looked like rubber bands...

 

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I have the Traction-Lok in the rear (Sterling 10.5) and I don't think it's an asset at speed in 4x4. The rear tends to slip around a little more than I would like. And weight is an asset, I've tried it. Although, with the SB SC, I'm not very light in the back a few hundred pounds plus the cab-height cap add enough.
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Well, that's a good point about traction-lock. Loseing traction in one rear wheel might be better than losing traction on both rear wheels. I guess traction lock helps when plowing or getting unstuck mostly.. ..
Tony

 

Lockers, or posi's can be very bad when it's icy and the road is crowned which most the roads I've ever been on are. Especially in 2WD. The front end locked in helps to pull you, and keep you straight but it can still leave you starting out going sideways with posi.

 

That's why so many rear wheel cars are open-diff.

For a comparison, my '96 t-bird 4.6L came with a 3.27 open-diff. Handled great in snow at speed, not much sliding around unless really pushing it. Same with an '89 t-bird 3.8L with open diff I drove for a few years.

I went to a 3.73 Auburn (which locks up like a dream) and it's like the rear end is not even on the ground. I have to constantly be on the alert for the rear end sliding out. I'm used to it, but it can be scary for some people, like my wife

 

Big bump - how was your V10 in the snow this past winter? A year later...

art k.

 

I would like to chime my 2 cent worth in if I could? I live in South Dakota Where the winters are long and the snow is deeeep. I have owned trucks from the day I could drive and still have the one I got back then. It is a 1976 F-250 4X4 high boy with a 390. I have had about all makes inbetween and now have a 2002 F-250 CC SD SB 4X4. The point is that this truck handles like a truck in the snow. It slips a little and is hard to turn. The bow ties Ive had handled (IMO) better but they were a lot lighter. The main thing I have to say about driving in snow is four wheel drive will help you GO but it wont help you SLOW . I am perfectly willing to give up a little snow handling to have a truck that will out pull, Haul and gives me the biggest BSEG ive ever had pulling a camper down the road. If you want the best snow plowing truck go with the old high boys Ive plowed more miles of snow with that old girl than I care to remember and it handles the best of all but she has real skinnny tires and weighs a ton..

Good topic
Take Care
JT

 

My favorite story about the advantage of narrow tires with the right amount of weight is back in 66 my friend had a 54 ****** Jeep and 4x4s were not nearly as popular as they are today so we were going up a mountain road with about 10 inches of fresh snow. He had snow tires all around but they were pretty worn out. As the road got steeper we started to lose traction and I was standing on the front bumper trying to get up the hill a little further. We finally gave up and my friend says, " Well at least we got further than anyone else " because there were no tracks on the road. He barely got those words out of his mouth when we both heard the air-cooled clatter of a VW.
You guessed it, that VW bug just went around us and kept clattering up the hill till he was out of site. We stood there with our mouths open !