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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 07:11 PM
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what manual transmission would yall recommend for this build? ive been trying to find a zf5 but having difficulties with that. would a tremec hold up as long as im not doing any towing with the truck or no?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 07:39 PM
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M5OD rows gears smoother according to @Hit Man X than the ZF
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 07:45 PM
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what manual transmission would yall recommend for this build?
Do you need a granny low gear? For a daily driver I’d go with the Mazda M5OD
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 08:12 PM
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I have stock tires with M5r2 and 4.10 gears, tons of fun! No problem pulling my landscaping trailer either.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 08:40 PM
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no its 2wd truck. and im looking for get up and go not crawling. i already have the m5od but from what i understand it can only handle about 300 lb of torque and my goal is to exceed that by 100 ft lbs
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 08:42 PM
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how much torque is your engine producing though? thats why i was leaning to the zf5 because of the 420- 470 toque rating depending on which model zf5
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 08:52 PM
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Super coupe guys as well as some jeeps run close to 500 tq with the R2. Mine launches hard. I truly treat it like a red headed step child, with and without the trailer attached. Put 3.73s in the rear though.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
Super coupe guys as well as some jeeps run close to 500 tq with the R2. Mine launches hard. I truly treat it like a red headed step child, with and without the trailer attached. Put 3.73s in the rear though.
thank you for the info!! after the past 3 months of working almost everyday im about to start having time to start figuring out what i need to buy and putting everything together. what rear end are you running in your rig?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2026 | 09:21 PM
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8.8 with 4.10s and trac lok carrier. Google high power with m5r2 trans, few different forums talking about it.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 05:02 AM
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no its 2wd truck. and im looking for get up and go not crawling. i already have the m5od but from what i understand it can only handle about 300 lb of torque and my goal is to exceed that by 100 ft lbs
I mean if you spend time on the diesel forums you'll find folks running 1000 ft lbs of torque through ZFs. Its all in the clutch. Through a good one in the M5 and you shouldn't have issues. Plus its already in the truck. You dont have much to lose throwing a good clutch in it and if it breaks, then look for a ZF.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 09:05 PM
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I mean if you spend time on the diesel forums you'll find folks running 1000 ft lbs of torque through ZFs. Its all in the clutch. Through a good one in the M5 and you shouldn't have issues. Plus its already in the truck. You dont have much to lose throwing a good clutch in it and if it breaks, then look for a ZF.
i got a ford billet 11 inch flywheel and a centerforce clutch with the shortblock i bought.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 09:14 PM
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If you decide to go with a ZF, MAKE sure you get the close ratio, not the wide. Even with close, I don’t think I would go more than 3.55s in the rear. If you’re wanting to haul $ss, 1st gear being 4.14:1 close range will have you shifting really quick. Wide ratio is like 5.72:1 would be great if you’re spinning 40” boggers or pulling your house.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2026 | 09:25 PM
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Like they say, "It's all good until it hooks up."
 
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Old Jan 13, 2026 | 03:45 PM
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The ZF will take massive abuse, tis just not DD friendly at all...it is a total brute. As noted, clutch is key. My 7.3DI rocks one from Southbend, it is unpleasant to drive daily with my 205/30s

My ZF is new, one cannot shift fast 1-2, gearset just too heavy and all run single cone syncros. 3-4 one can whack quick

Mine has SMF and their organic/feramic (OFE). My fault as I wanted 238/100s. I chose smaller sticks and should have done the HD organic.

Go right to a 351W unless need some high RPM engine 302 is garbage in a truck
 

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The ZF will take massive abuse, tis just not DD friendly at all...it is a total brute. As noted, clutch is key. My 7.3DI rocks one from Southbend, it is unpleasant to drive daily with my 205/30s

My ZF is new, one cannot shift fast 1-2, gearset just too heavy and all run single cone syncros. 3-4 one can whack quick

Mine has SMF and their organic/feramic (OFE). My fault as I wanted 238/100s. I chose smaller sticks and should have done the HD organic.

Go right to a 351W unless need some high RPM engine 302 is garbage in a truck
Have you thought about putting a short throw in it?
 
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