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and yet GM has announced that they will no longer support Android Auto or Apple Carplay. Seems like that might be a popular choice (not!).
Fleet Mechanic
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They are going to regret that move. The youth (under 40s) absolutely will not accept that. IMO, it's a move and trend to everything becoming ale carte, includin options in cars.
Lead Driver
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Despite the value, they still see fit to charge for it. It might be simpler and more profitable to make a deal with the big G to trade info for tech or something.
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The most simple thing to offer would be an infotainment system that is more or less a basic AM/FM radio, and has a screen that is compatible with either Apple or Android. Then the owner could mirror their phone to the screen and operate it as they desire.
Ford could offer an app for owners to access all kinds of info on their vehicles, if the owner wants. There would be no need for navigation, or all of the other glitchy proprietary software that auto manufacturers try to devise to get your attention, then change it all around with each update. But, there’s no money in that.
Late model vehicles have become too reliant on electronics, just for basic functions. Simplifying what is controlled via CANbus, rather than running more and more through it, would go a long way towards reliability. One of the leading causes of warranty complaints for auto manufacturers these days is electronic and infotainment related. You can only put so much demand on a 12 volt system.
Ford could offer an app for owners to access all kinds of info on their vehicles, if the owner wants. There would be no need for navigation, or all of the other glitchy proprietary software that auto manufacturers try to devise to get your attention, then change it all around with each update. But, there’s no money in that.
Late model vehicles have become too reliant on electronics, just for basic functions. Simplifying what is controlled via CANbus, rather than running more and more through it, would go a long way towards reliability. One of the leading causes of warranty complaints for auto manufacturers these days is electronic and infotainment related. You can only put so much demand on a 12 volt system.
Lead Driver
Joined: May 2015
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From: Mts. S. of San Francisco
The most simple thing to offer would be an infotainment system that is more or less a basic AM/FM radio, and has a screen that is compatible with either Apple or Android. Then the owner could mirror their phone to the screen and operate it as they desire.
Ford could offer an app for owners to access all kinds of info on their vehicles, if the owner wants. There would be no need for navigation, or all of the other glitchy proprietary software that auto manufacturers try to devise to get your attention, then change it all around with each update. But, there’s no money in that.
Late model vehicles have become too reliant on electronics, just for basic functions. Simplifying what is controlled via CANbus, rather than running more and more through it, would go a long way towards reliability. One of the leading causes of warranty complaints for auto manufacturers these days is electronic and infotainment related. You can only put so much demand on a 12 volt system.
Ford could offer an app for owners to access all kinds of info on their vehicles, if the owner wants. There would be no need for navigation, or all of the other glitchy proprietary software that auto manufacturers try to devise to get your attention, then change it all around with each update. But, there’s no money in that.
Late model vehicles have become too reliant on electronics, just for basic functions. Simplifying what is controlled via CANbus, rather than running more and more through it, would go a long way towards reliability. One of the leading causes of warranty complaints for auto manufacturers these days is electronic and infotainment related. You can only put so much demand on a 12 volt system.
All vehicles should switch to 48V anyway. Higher voltage = lower current = smaller wires = less expensive.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Staten Island, NY
It seems like the auto companies are going in the wrong direction. GM is removing Apple and Android capabilities from some of their vehicles. I've also noticed that the majority, but not all, of the EV's on the market do not support Apple or Android as well.
The question to ask is why?
A possible answer is the cost of licensing fees that have to be paid to Apple and Google for each and every vehicle built with that capability whether or not its ever used by the owner.
Profits are Job One!
On my previous truck my ancient phone became incompatible with Sync 3 since the version of Android couldn't be upgraded. No problem. Stick the phone in a holder, plug the cable in to keep it charged and Google Maps worked perfectly just from the phone and as a side benefit I could keep the entertainment screen up on the Sync screen. The phone and message features still worked thru Sync via Bluetooth.
The question to ask is why?
A possible answer is the cost of licensing fees that have to be paid to Apple and Google for each and every vehicle built with that capability whether or not its ever used by the owner.
Profits are Job One!
On my previous truck my ancient phone became incompatible with Sync 3 since the version of Android couldn't be upgraded. No problem. Stick the phone in a holder, plug the cable in to keep it charged and Google Maps worked perfectly just from the phone and as a side benefit I could keep the entertainment screen up on the Sync screen. The phone and message features still worked thru Sync via Bluetooth.
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I can't even get my G maps to come up on my display in my 16 with sync2 , I use android and am not real tech savvy like you all.
Anyway to fix that? not the tech savvy part, some of you may be good but none of yous fella's is that good!!
Jeff
Anyway to fix that? not the tech savvy part, some of you may be good but none of yous fella's is that good!!
Jeff
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With Sync-2 you are outa luck, but if you can install Sync-3 (version 2 or newer) you can get Android Auto and/or Carplay to work.
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It depends on the year. I know our 2015 can not get it, but your 2016 "might". Sorry, I do not know when Sync-3 came out.
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I can be done, but it's not cheap.
https://infotainment.com/shop/interi...-auto-upgrade/
Sync4 is even available
https://infotainment.com/shop/interi...rofit-upgrade/
https://www.fordsync4.com/products/o...4-upgrade-kits
https://infotainment.com/shop/interi...-auto-upgrade/
Sync4 is even available
https://infotainment.com/shop/interi...rofit-upgrade/
https://www.fordsync4.com/products/o...4-upgrade-kits
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