Some things are different?
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2018
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From: Black Hills of SD
Many dealerships do cheapo oil changes, using cheapo china junk oil filters, all about profit margins.
Happened to me once back when I had my RAM, and it came with a maintenance plan, and I stopped at a RAM dealer out in New Mexico when I was not going to be back home for a while, and they stuck some cheapo filter on it, and I raised hell, and made them change it out to a mopar filter. Their service manage claimed they didn't get reimbursed enough to use mopar filters, and I told him that it was a RAM factory maintenance plan and I expected factory filters to be used. He just handed me my keys back and walked away.
Happened to me once back when I had my RAM, and it came with a maintenance plan, and I stopped at a RAM dealer out in New Mexico when I was not going to be back home for a while, and they stuck some cheapo filter on it, and I raised hell, and made them change it out to a mopar filter. Their service manage claimed they didn't get reimbursed enough to use mopar filters, and I told him that it was a RAM factory maintenance plan and I expected factory filters to be used. He just handed me my keys back and walked away.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jul 2011
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From: Walpole, MA
It is almost as concentrated at batteries but not quiet as bad. Parker Hannifin (Baldwin, Hasting, Racor, etc), Donaldson (also in a JV with Cat as well for their branded filters) and Cummins still loom pretty large in commercial and industrial applications and PTC is a pretty large player in private label products as well (COUGH* Doc's *COUGH). Also, just cause two product share a point of origin doesn't mean they meet the same specs or build quality, you definitely see that a lot in batteries.
Lead Driver
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I've never had anything except Motorcraft parts from the dealerships where I live. But, I drive a Ford. Maybe it did happen to you once, but oh yeah right. That was at a Dodge dealer..... So when you say many dealerships use elcheapo parts, you must be talking Dodge/Ram/Fiat/Chrysler/Plymouth......
Cargo Master
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From: Walpole, MA
I wonder if that was one of those filters they use when the engine leaves the factory in Mexico. I think I've heard from people purchase their truck new that the oil filter that shows up on the truck when they first get it isn't the FL 2124/fl 2051.
Lead Driver
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All Super Duty's are US built. Yes there are some minor differences in Canadian market trucks, but it wouldn't be the oil filter.
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2021
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From: NW Wyoming USA
I run Purolator’s premium Boss oil filters in all three of my vehicles, Ford, GMC and Jeep. They can be had for about $12-$16. Purolator makes three grades of oil filters. The Motorcraft OE oil filter for the gas 7.3 is made by Purolator, from what I recall it’s a combination of Purolator’s lowest and mid grade oil filter. The Motorcaft oil filters are adequate if that’s all you want.
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Lead Driver
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From: AKRON ohio
Use Motorcraft filters and a quality motor oil like Mobil One in your gasser. That is what your engine is designed to use. Service departments try to maximize profits at your expense. That is why they pulled one over on you and put a cheap bulk filter on your truck. I'm shocked that an authorized Ford service center would pull that crap. 🤔
when I purchased my new 2005 f150 the dealer "gave" me a lifetime yearly birthday oil change. About year three after the oil change I noticed engine noise on cold start. That's when I looked and saw the elcheapo oil filter. That was my last free oil change. Oh and I did ask the service writer about it and he said they used the elcheapo filters on the "free" oil changes.
sold the truck with 128,000 miles and the 5.4 3 valve had never been opened up. Goes to show what quality oil and filters do for longevity
Logistics Pro
Joined: Sep 2002
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From: Central KY
The oil geeks and tribologists over on the BITOG forum will tell you the opposite. They will tell you that a large conglomerate bought out the company that makes Wix, Purolator, etc. and now quality has gone way down hill. And....because those companies make the Motorcraft filter for Ford that means the Motorcraft is not the best filter you can buy either.
Conversely, they say that Fram has come a long way and is now producing some of the finest oil filters on the shelf. They claim you can simply disassemble one and compare build quality to others and you'll see a clear difference.
I think I'll stick to Baldwin filter for that nice filtration rate.
Conversely, they say that Fram has come a long way and is now producing some of the finest oil filters on the shelf. They claim you can simply disassemble one and compare build quality to others and you'll see a clear difference.
I think I'll stick to Baldwin filter for that nice filtration rate.
Logistics Pro
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From: Everywhere and nowhere
The Motorcraft filter seems to be the only.one with the anti-drainback valve at the top and designed the way it is. Some people co.plain about how thin the casing is but when have you ever punctured an oil filter housing while operating a vehicle? I've never seen or heard of it happening. I have a Ford Racing FL-1A on my other truck right now that I got thrown in with a case of Motorcraft filters by my local dealer parts guy and it does have a thicker case and more filter media area but for $22/filter I'll stick with shorter drain intervals and a $3.53/filter standard Motorcraft filter.
Tuned
Joined: May 2010
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From: Pleasanton, CA
My 2019 6.7 was originally sold in the Canada market then I bought it in the US, Oregon, from a Ford Dealership in 2020. So far I have found all parts I buy to be compatible. The only thing I had to change when I bought it was the dash was configured in Metric which I then changed promptly to US standard.
Mike
Mike
Mountain Pass
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Buddy of mine a parts runner for local auto parts store, delivers parts every day to the franchise dealership service departments. Guessing if they dont have the OEM parts in stock, they just get them from the local box store. (Cant see that happening on a oil filter though, thats nuts).
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