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Old May 29, 2025 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by roberthleeii
I would love to find a good dealer to order from in Texas or close by...
Very strange with so many members up here for so long such as yourself that those internet-based dealers aren't known to most up here.
Even stranger (to me at least) with so many trucks sold in Texas alone.
My local dealer wouldn't even entertain less than invoice which will eventually lead to the demise of this sales model and the advent of factory-backed service-only shops in my opinion. I think that manufacturers are starting to realize that they cannot depend on sales managers to vouch for the product knowledge/overall quality of their sales force. This was what industrial-based purchasing managers used to count on' in the old days' or when subject matter experts were actually that and obviously contributed value to the middle man model.
In my opinion today?
You might as well do the research yourself and go with the best price as service after the sale let alone beforehand is questionable at best. Just my $.02
 

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Old May 29, 2025 | 10:16 AM
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Another question re: these early quotes:
How many are asking their dealers to line by line break down the "TOTAL DIO OPTS" at the end of their quotes...and why would that not be done so in the first place when other 'piddly' accessories are given their own line item directly above it?
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Unashamed
Does Akins give you a set % off invoice and reveal their additional fees...and/or does anyone else here in the USA?
I don't know if Akins Ford does, if someone knows please chime in! I do know they have a $799 service fee.
From my past research, I believe Granger Ford does (right now it is 3% below invoice on new '25 and '26 SuperDuty + $180 doc fee + $65 transit fee).
Another I was looking at was Long-McArthur, but I don't know where their pricing stands currently.
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oafy44
yes - Akins Ford can take your order and deliver it to you anywhere in US
they also seem to get any allocation for a build due to their size/volume. During Covid I got any truck I ordered pretty fast while other dealers couldn’t get allocations.
Thanks for responding, can you comment on how Akins' pricing on new SuperDuty orders compares to Granger (3% below invoice)? Looks like Akins charges a "service fee" of $799 nowadays. Do they pile on any dealer-add stuff at delivery?
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 11:00 AM
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Could it be somewhat of a musical chairs game right now(?) as I'm wondering if '25 orders get bumped to the back of the line of those who have already placed '26 orders if they wait to be told that their build is a no go/then order a '26. I wonder how much (historically) that this has pushed back all orders and what role (good or bad) will the new Canadian plant play?
Either way, this much earlier than normal '26 order process must put a LOT of pressure on getting everyone out the door in a timely manner when production ramps up.
 
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Old May 29, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Unashamed
Very strange with so many members up here for so long such as yourself that those internet-based dealers aren't known to most up here.
Even stranger (to me at least) with so many trucks sold in Texas alone.
My local dealer wouldn't even entertain less than invoice which will eventually lead to the demise of this sales model and the advent of factory-backed service-only shops in my opinion. I think that manufacturers are starting to realize that they cannot depend on sales managers to vouch for the product knowledge/overall quality of their sales force. This was what industrial-based purchasing managers used to count on' in the old days' or when subject matter experts were actually that and obviously contributed value to the middle man model.
In my opinion today?
You might as well do the research yourself and go with the best price as service after the sale let alone beforehand is questionable at best. Just my $.02
You are right that product knowledge by the dealer's sales staff is woefully inadequate. Same goes for the service writers.
I don't see how a dealer's refusal to sell at less than invoice will lead to the demise of the current sales model. The current automotive manufacturer/dealer sales model is much more complicated than that and it starts with State laws that prohibit direct sales to consumers. In my market area, it is challenging to get dealers even close to invoice.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 08:05 AM
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Did anyone notice that when you click on the Super Duty page you go straight to the 2025 page not the 2024 page now. I think mid week they made this change. I thought it was a little strange that they made this change at this point in time.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by roberthleeii
Did anyone notice that when you click on the Super Duty page you go straight to the 2025 page not the 2024 page now. I think mid week they made this change. I thought it was a little strange that they made this change at this point in time.
Its silly how poorly updated the site is. Not once while 25 order banks were open did the page load directly to the 25 build page, you had to fumble around to get the 25 build page. You couldn’t build a 24 since like last October, now that 25s are basically finished they change it? Just in time for the 26 orders to open, laughable actually. Now we can wait till August/sept for them to get around to a 26 build page being available. Seems like **** poor marketing to me.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stiletto364
Thanks for responding, can you comment on how Akins' pricing on new SuperDuty orders compares to Granger (3% below invoice)? Looks like Akins charges a "service fee" of $799 nowadays. Do they pile on any dealer-add stuff at delivery?
This is all I can say about Akins. We buy all of our fleet vehicles from them and even during the COVID height they never charged over MSRP. Now I get a little discount but I custom order all my vehicles and they come in exactly how I order them, but if I wanted a large discount I would just buy one of the trucks off the lot.
My sales agent has been there for 10 years and if I need anything / a loaner - them coming to pick up my bricked lightning / or them coming to pick up my f350 because the fuel pump came off- all those things are worth more to me then x plan.

They don’t add on anything unless you want them to. Service fee is about half since we buy a lot of vehicles

to answer your question - if your looking for the lowest price they probably won’t get that for you. If your looking for a company that can build whatever you want AND get it delivered before most any dealership can then they would be your pick.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Unashamed
Edit: Received my quote, still not near satisfied all things considered yet am deleting the experience to meet half-way.
Btw...a 2026 F350 Lariat 4X4 CREW CAB DRW/176 is supposedly running just over $65K (invoice).

If you can wait, then go the X-Plan route. Join the Mustang Owners Club if you have to. Otherwise, find the best local dealer or go with a dealer like Granger. I bought two trucks from Granger during Covid. Easy to work with and well worth the flight and drive back to south FL.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 07:41 PM
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If you can wait, then go the X-Plan route. Join the Mustang Owners Club if you have to. Otherwise, find the best local dealer or go with a dealer like Granger. I bought two trucks from Granger during Covid. Easy to work with and well worth the flight and drive back to south FL.
That's exactly what I am finding too. At the end of the day, Granger is about $1500 lower on a new F-350 7.3 CC SRW (XLT or Lariat) versus X-Plan when taking all costs into account. It's up to me to decide whether flying out there and driving back 14 hours is worth it, or not.
 
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Originally Posted by Stiletto364
That's exactly what I am finding too. At the end of the day, Granger is about $1500 lower on a new F-350 7.3 CC SRW (XLT or Lariat) versus X-Plan when taking all costs into account. It's up to me to decide whether flying out there and driving back 14 hours is worth it, or not.
That is not much of a difference once you consider flights can range $250-$500 per person, plus hotel(s), and then fuel. For me the savings was over $6K so it was not a tough decision. If you already qualify for X-Plan then you don't have to consider the extra wait time to qualify.

Good luck.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Monoman67
That is not much of a difference once you consider flights can range $250-$500 per person, plus hotel(s), and then fuel. For me the savings was over $6K so it was not a tough decision. If you already qualify for X-Plan then you don't have to consider the extra wait time to qualify.

Good luck.
Thanks, in this case the $1500 savings estimate over X-plan is after all costs (including destination, fees, taxes and travel). Included is a one-way Southwest flight to Des Moines, IA along with gas, food and 1 night motel lodging for driving the truck back home (930 miles). I've always been a light, frugal traveler (especially when it's on my dime), so my total travel estimate is only about $560. I signed up for X-Plan a while back, so no additional wait time.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2025 | 02:57 PM
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For what it is worth: Long McArthur has a build and price for 2026 on their website. It is a little clunky, but it let me price a build that is the same as the 2025 that I ordered with exception of antimatter blue. It came in a little more than $5000 higher. This was without xplan and the $1500 incentive. I wouldn’t order from them because they are a long way from me, but they seem to be on top of the ordering and pricing games. I am not holding my breath on the 25 getting scheduled, but it would save me some money and let me get the color that I want most.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SwanmanV10
For what it is worth: Long McArthur has a build and price for 2026 on their website. It is a little clunky, but it let me price a build that is the same as the 2025 that I ordered with exception of antimatter blue. It came in a little more than $5000 higher. This was without xplan and the $1500 incentive. I wouldn’t order from them because they are a long way from me, but they seem to be on top of the ordering and pricing games. I am not holding my breath on the 25 getting scheduled, but it would save me some money and let me get the color that I want most.
i used this to build an 2006 7.3 XLT Premium with out BAP and tried to match it to a 2025 7.3 XLT Premium with the BAP and it was almost the same MSRP. There is your year to year price increase.
 
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