I would rather have an extended warranty or a winch over 25hp. Detuned engine will last longer. I did not opt for HO

 

The SO shares many of the same components with the HO. I would say not worth it except you want bragging rights. I met an owner who said he can’t tell the difference. This video goes over some good details.

 

For a personal truck, what is wrong with buying it for bragging rights? Nothing. I always buy the biggest engine. Life is short and I only buy a new vehicle every five years or so.

 

Binford 6100, arh arh arh

 

I had a SO 2022 and a HO 2023 both with 3.31 gears and 34’ tires. Just to get a comparison I timed the 0-60 times of the two trucks as well as time up a steep hill with a 30,000 lb gooseneck in tow. I don’t understand why but there was a dramatic difference in the 0-60 times yet the towing time was virtually identical. (0 to 60 was 5.9 vs 7.4 seconds)
I didn’t write down the results of the towing test up the hill but the idea was I held my foot to the floor at the bottom of the 1 mile long grade at 30 mph with 30,000 lbs in tow. Both trucks reached the top of the hill in 95 seconds doing 60 mph.

 

It's your money. Get what you need or what you want. I got the HO purely because I wanted it and I could afford it.
I certainly didn't need it, and I doubt there is much of any real world operational difference.

 

I agree, get what YOU want. Just the red badges alone will give me unlimited smiles per gallon, so money well spent, as far as I am concerned.

 

I'd like to see the difference in highway accel pulling a more "modest" 10-12K. Pulling that load you do have the option to pass in a reasonable manner when the difference between slow lane and fast lane traffic is 20-30 MPH.
There are plenty of dweebs that don't care one lick about pulling their "package" out in fast lane, doing 1 MPH faster than the guy they want to pass, holding everyone else up. I'd rather be as courteous as I can, pass quickly
and get back out of the way. I had hoped the HO would have added to that ability.

That and as "nice" as the new SD's ride, if you get roads with constant unmaintained expansion joints, it can get brutal over a long stretch of highway.
Pa has some highways that are 2 lane each direction, but the slow lane is a disaster. If low traffic levels allow, due to the horrible condition of slow lane,
I like to be a left lane bandit if I am not holding anyone up. If I see a vehicle coming, I get out of the way, most times before I even impede their travel.
(but if I need to power down to get out of the way, I can and will). Again, my thought on getting the supposedly most powerful version was geared towards that.

And anyone crying about the cost, better be running a clapped out XL.

 

As with most videos on the HO, forgot to tear down the turbo and actually measure it.
I don't know if it matters, but I do know most U-tubers have no idea it even happened.

Compressor wheel

Blade tip height is lower on HO, supposedly for higher efficiency @ high boost (4 on HO vs 5 mm)

Turbine wheel is also different on HO.

---------------SO mm HO mm
Exducer ------55.2---- 55.5
Inducer------ 67.9---- 70.2
Blade height--24.7---- 25.7

 

cool cool.

 

all the you tubers ..."turbo basically the same"
yet they are different..granted not by much. higher boost and more flow does require slight changes
Is it worth 2500? Yup
Because you get hctp rear springs, higher payload in 250.
what little seat time I have in mine

It's signifisignificantly quieter on the road.
could be tye trim level.. but
I liked my 21 6.7 it was great amd very smooth, but not nearly as quiet tooling down the road
the 24. Is also very smooth
once the hub thing is fixed. I bet the remaining nvh issues will be very insignificant
I have a fkycked left ear and constant ringing
Certain pitch and hums tend to irritate me when driving
so for me it's a win...have a truck to do work, tow and provide me a nice cabin to ride in so i am not pissed off from clicks, hums, etc when i arrive at my destination

 

If I was ordering a new 6.7 PSD truck today, I'd probably go for the HO if for no other reason than future resale consideration.....but anecdotal evidence and any testing I've found suggests that loaded towing performance isn't as different as the paper ratings may lead you to believe.

2 cents,
Dave

 

I don't believe that is quite true about the high capacity trailer, what's your basis for saying that?

Personally, The $3,000 can be spent much better.

For those that want the bragging rights of having a HO, I can sell you an authentic door badge for $750, Even thousand for both doors, you'll still be way ahead in the pocket.

 

I can appreciate someone's opinion of not wanting the H.O. for cost, but to focus on the cost difference alone is ill-informed.


The actual price difference between the 6.7 and the H.O. 6.7 is $2,500. Not all of that increase is just to get 25hp and 150 torque; some is factored in elsewhere.


Selecting the H.O. also adds the High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package, which costs $1,130 on its own. So, the actual cost difference between the two engines is $1,370.


This is what's included in this package:


F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package

Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on diesel engine

$1,130.00

Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Not available with Pickup Box Delete. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes:

The value of the $1,370 actual cost difference can be justified in a few different ways:


1. Resale value will be increased.

2. Payload is increased.

3. GCVWR is increased.


Those are examples of factual differences; there may be more.


My brain also factors in other differences that justify the cost (to me):


1. Some people spend $400-$600 on an air intake that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.

2. Some people spend roughly $1,000 on some sort of exhaust modification that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.

3. AWESOME RED DOOR BADGES


Said differently, some people spend $1,400 - $1,600 on intake/exhaust modifications that net nothing but sound. I spent $1,370 to get an actual increase of 25hp and 150 torque. Money well spent in my opinion.


Some will not want the upgraded axle package, but most of us buying a diesel tow, even if only once per year. Even if you do not consider the benefits of the axle upgrade, the full cost of $2,500 is easily justified. Let's not forget the red door badges!


If the added cost of the H.O. is priced out of reach (POOR), is it necessary to come on here and claim it's not worth the cost, just because you could not justify it, for whatever the reason?

 

the hctp is mandatory upgrade..zero dollars on my sticker
Build and price adds it as well.
I like it as my 21 was pretty lite in capacity
Compared to my 24
agree 3k might or could be used elsewhere
But for me its sensible to have truck as i want for my use.
took me some time to find 3 . To pick from
I am old
I want certain things and creature comforts
Plus being able to load up and go