HO 6.7?
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From: Kaysville Utah
I've had a 2011, 2015, 2017, 2020 all with the 6.7 SO and 3.55 gears. My 2023 I got with the 6.7HO and 3.31 gears.
I don't feel a difference in seat of the pants. Maybe because of the 3.31 maybe because the difference is small.
My 2011 came with 390hp and pulled my trailer just fine. I still get to my destinations at the same time with a 500 hp 6.7HO
I had hoped the HO would deal with heat better and hence the engine last longer. But I'm finding that my HO engine runs 150-200° hotter than my previous 6.7 engines ever did. I suspect all 23+ engines runner hotter than previous generation engines because Ford changed out to steel piston and engineers decided they could go hotter in the combustion chamber ( and use more DEF to control the NOx that comes with hotter EGTS) My previous 202 truck would pull Parleys Canyon on I-80 with a 13,000 lbs horse trailer behind it at 1300° and my 23 6.7HO pulls canyon at 1475°.
My 2023 HO does get about 2 mpg better than my 2020 truck did. Probably because of the 3.31 gears
I don't feel a difference in seat of the pants. Maybe because of the 3.31 maybe because the difference is small.
My 2011 came with 390hp and pulled my trailer just fine. I still get to my destinations at the same time with a 500 hp 6.7HO
I had hoped the HO would deal with heat better and hence the engine last longer. But I'm finding that my HO engine runs 150-200° hotter than my previous 6.7 engines ever did. I suspect all 23+ engines runner hotter than previous generation engines because Ford changed out to steel piston and engineers decided they could go hotter in the combustion chamber ( and use more DEF to control the NOx that comes with hotter EGTS) My previous 202 truck would pull Parleys Canyon on I-80 with a 13,000 lbs horse trailer behind it at 1300° and my 23 6.7HO pulls canyon at 1475°.
My 2023 HO does get about 2 mpg better than my 2020 truck did. Probably because of the 3.31 gears
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2018
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the hctp is mandatory upgrade..zero dollars on my sticker
Build and price adds it as well.
I like it as my 21 was pretty lite in capacity
Compared to my 24
agree 3k might or could be used elsewhere
But for me its sensible to have truck as i want for my use.
took me some time to find 3 . To pick from
I am old
I want certain things and creature comforts
Plus being able to load up and go
Build and price adds it as well.
I like it as my 21 was pretty lite in capacity
Compared to my 24
agree 3k might or could be used elsewhere
But for me its sensible to have truck as i want for my use.
took me some time to find 3 . To pick from
I am old
I want certain things and creature comforts
Plus being able to load up and go
Cargo Master
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I can appreciate someone's opinion of not wanting the H.O. for cost, but to focus on the cost difference alone is ill-informed.
The actual price difference between the 6.7 and the H.O. 6.7 is $2,500. Not all of that increase is just to get 25hp and 150 torque; some is factored in elsewhere.
Selecting the H.O. also adds the High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package, which costs $1,130 on its own. So, the actual cost difference between the two engines is $1,370.
This is what's included in this package:
F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package
Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on diesel engine
$1,130.00
Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Not available with Pickup Box Delete. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes:
The value of the $1,370 actual cost difference can be justified in a few different ways:
1. Resale value will be increased.
2. Payload is increased.
3. GCVWR is increased.
Those are examples of factual differences; there may be more.
My brain also factors in other differences that justify the cost (to me):
1. Some people spend $400-$600 on an air intake that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
2. Some people spend roughly $1,000 on some sort of exhaust modification that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
3. AWESOME RED DOOR BADGES
Said differently, some people spend $1,400 - $1,600 on intake/exhaust modifications that net nothing but sound. I spent $1,370 to get an actual increase of 25hp and 150 torque. Money well spent in my opinion.
Some will not want the upgraded axle package, but most of us buying a diesel tow, even if only once per year. Even if you do not consider the benefits of the axle upgrade, the full cost of $2,500 is easily justified. Let's not forget the red door badges!
If the added cost of the H.O. is priced out of reach (POOR), is it necessary to come on here and claim it's not worth the cost, just because you could not justify it, for whatever the reason?
The actual price difference between the 6.7 and the H.O. 6.7 is $2,500. Not all of that increase is just to get 25hp and 150 torque; some is factored in elsewhere.
Selecting the H.O. also adds the High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package, which costs $1,130 on its own. So, the actual cost difference between the two engines is $1,370.
This is what's included in this package:
F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package
Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on diesel engine
$1,130.00
Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Not available with Pickup Box Delete. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes:
The value of the $1,370 actual cost difference can be justified in a few different ways:
1. Resale value will be increased.
2. Payload is increased.
3. GCVWR is increased.
Those are examples of factual differences; there may be more.
My brain also factors in other differences that justify the cost (to me):
1. Some people spend $400-$600 on an air intake that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
2. Some people spend roughly $1,000 on some sort of exhaust modification that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
3. AWESOME RED DOOR BADGES
Said differently, some people spend $1,400 - $1,600 on intake/exhaust modifications that net nothing but sound. I spent $1,370 to get an actual increase of 25hp and 150 torque. Money well spent in my opinion.
Some will not want the upgraded axle package, but most of us buying a diesel tow, even if only once per year. Even if you do not consider the benefits of the axle upgrade, the full cost of $2,500 is easily justified. Let's not forget the red door badges!
If the added cost of the H.O. is priced out of reach (POOR), is it necessary to come on here and claim it's not worth the cost, just because you could not justify it, for whatever the reason?
Or are you saying he should move away from an f-450, to an f250 with hctt/HO the tow his 23,000 lb trailer
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,463
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From: Wasilla, AK
I can appreciate someone's opinion of not wanting the H.O. for cost, but to focus on the cost difference alone is ill-informed.
The actual price difference between the 6.7 and the H.O. 6.7 is $2,500. Not all of that increase is just to get 25hp and 150 torque; some is factored in elsewhere.
Selecting the H.O. also adds the High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package, which costs $1,130 on its own. So, the actual cost difference between the two engines is $1,370.
This is what's included in this package:
F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package
Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on diesel engine
$1,130.00
Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Not available with Pickup Box Delete. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes:
The value of the $1,370 actual cost difference can be justified in a few different ways:
1. Resale value will be increased.
2. Payload is increased.
3. GCVWR is increased.
Those are examples of factual differences; there may be more.
My brain also factors in other differences that justify the cost (to me):
1. Some people spend $400-$600 on an air intake that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
2. Some people spend roughly $1,000 on some sort of exhaust modification that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
3. AWESOME RED DOOR BADGES
Said differently, some people spend $1,400 - $1,600 on intake/exhaust modifications that net nothing but sound. I spent $1,370 to get an actual increase of 25hp and 150 torque. Money well spent in my opinion.
Some will not want the upgraded axle package, but most of us buying a diesel tow, even if only once per year. Even if you do not consider the benefits of the axle upgrade, the full cost of $2,500 is easily justified. Let's not forget the red door badges!
If the added cost of the H.O. is priced out of reach (POOR), is it necessary to come on here and claim it's not worth the cost, just because you could not justify it, for whatever the reason?
The actual price difference between the 6.7 and the H.O. 6.7 is $2,500. Not all of that increase is just to get 25hp and 150 torque; some is factored in elsewhere.
Selecting the H.O. also adds the High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package, which costs $1,130 on its own. So, the actual cost difference between the two engines is $1,370.
This is what's included in this package:
F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package
Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on diesel engine
$1,130.00
Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Not available with Pickup Box Delete. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes:
The value of the $1,370 actual cost difference can be justified in a few different ways:
1. Resale value will be increased.
2. Payload is increased.
3. GCVWR is increased.
Those are examples of factual differences; there may be more.
My brain also factors in other differences that justify the cost (to me):
1. Some people spend $400-$600 on an air intake that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
2. Some people spend roughly $1,000 on some sort of exhaust modification that "may" flow better, but does not increase power/torque, no matter what they tell you.
3. AWESOME RED DOOR BADGES
Said differently, some people spend $1,400 - $1,600 on intake/exhaust modifications that net nothing but sound. I spent $1,370 to get an actual increase of 25hp and 150 torque. Money well spent in my opinion.
Some will not want the upgraded axle package, but most of us buying a diesel tow, even if only once per year. Even if you do not consider the benefits of the axle upgrade, the full cost of $2,500 is easily justified. Let's not forget the red door badges!
If the added cost of the H.O. is priced out of reach (POOR), is it necessary to come on here and claim it's not worth the cost, just because you could not justify it, for whatever the reason?
Still a no for me, lol
Tuned
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 250
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From: Taxachusetts
I'm selling my 2023 F450 and moving back down to a 2024 F350.
Is the HO 6.7L worth the additional $2000? Doesn't look like much of a HP/Torque increase for that much money. I'm guessing I'd notice a power difference stepping down to F350 due to the deeper 4.33 axle ratio in the F450. Don't want to regret loosing that power. F350 I'm looking at has 3.55 ratio. One with 6.7 and one with HO6.7. 6.7 is Antimatter blue almost black and HO6.7 is Tricolor white two tone. $7000 difference out the door.
Is the HO 6.7L worth the additional $2000? Doesn't look like much of a HP/Torque increase for that much money. I'm guessing I'd notice a power difference stepping down to F350 due to the deeper 4.33 axle ratio in the F450. Don't want to regret loosing that power. F350 I'm looking at has 3.55 ratio. One with 6.7 and one with HO6.7. 6.7 is Antimatter blue almost black and HO6.7 is Tricolor white two tone. $7000 difference out the door.
Having never ordered an F350, I was unaware the upgraded axle was not applicable to the scenario, excuse my ignorance.
Having said that, I did mention in my previous post that even if one does not factor in the upgraded axle, the added cost for the H.O. is worth something.
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Cargo Master
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Wow, I must be doing a wrong for all these years.
I do 50,000 lb with a derated 6.7 that's only like 300 horse 800Tq.
My truck and trailer alone before loaded is 25,000 wet.
What is the F 350 DRW rated ?
I do 50,000 lb with a derated 6.7 that's only like 300 horse 800Tq.
My truck and trailer alone before loaded is 25,000 wet.
What is the F 350 DRW rated ?
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Weird that one of the big differences seems to be going from all season to all terrains (same size tire I assume, doesn't say).
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