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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 06:58 PM
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Steering sector too Tight ??

I had the truck alignment done a while back, ball joints replaced, new Steering Damper ( irked me, I just put a new one on it )

The caster is now near the FTE SUV advice at 4.8*

Driving home, I noticed immediately that I had to "manhandle" the steering wheel, to make it turn.

Today, 1st warm day since it was done, I drove around every little city block we have. Made a point of going slow, and doing Full Lock turns at each intersection. It will almost return to center, but lacks about 1/3rd of the steering wheel to get it back into the lane.

While doing that today, I noticed that there is ZERO backlash, and I mean none at all, not even a 1/4 inch of free looseness in the steering wheel.

the only time in my 80 years that I have experienced that, was when I got the Steering Sector adjustment too tight.

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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:06 PM
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I would bet they didn't torque the ball joint in the correct sequence. This is a common problem with them so much that they include a paper in Spicer ball joint that's explain how to torque them properly to prevent this.

Also what ball joints were used?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:17 PM
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had to look at the invoice, here are the part numbers.





looked that up, it seems to be Moog.
O'Reilly is $73 each ( charged me $75 each )
Amazon is $28 each


https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c...nt/moo0/k80026

 
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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Moog isn't the quality it used to be. On ball joints I reccomend Spicer only. But little late for that now. I would see if they remember if they torqued them in the correct sequence. I don't remmeber exact number off the top of my head but you torque the nottom to x amount. Then torque the top to x amount. Then go back and torque the bottom to the final x amount.

If they did that correctly then after you drive it some more they may break in and free up some.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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About the only thing they should have had hands on that would make the steering tight would be the ball joints. If they over tightened them or didn't get them fully seated when pressing them into the knuckle it could have them in a bind. If you can get the frontend off the ground and pop the drag link off the wheels should easily flop side to side. If the hang or drag at all then they botched something and it's time to call Scotty. (and que any and all Star Trek jokes)
 
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:31 PM
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Okay,
I will try that....

or, go by and ask them next Tuesday,
Sunday/Monday is their weekend off.

so far, I have only driven it 18 miles since the job was done.
16 of that was in a straight line.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2025 | 11:06 PM
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Okay,

I have decided I am going to their shop, and ask the guy Face-to-Face exactly how he set the torque on the Ball Joints.

I need to know, if that is done with the wheels suspended off the lift, which I suspect it would have to be.

or, with the truck's weight on the ball joints, which does not make sense to me...

I need to know this, before I go ask that question ....
 
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Old Jan 26, 2025 | 03:13 PM
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With no weight on them. Axles and everything are out when you torque them so you can get torque wrench on the lowers.
 
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