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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 08:19 AM
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Glow plug wait to start light.

Hello I have a question about my 2013 6.7. It’s in the teens and when I cold start my truck the glow plug light only goes on for a couple seconds and it seems like the glow plugs may not be working? Is it normal for the light to only be on for a couple seconds? Truck starts but sounds a but rough at first. Is this normal or is there something I need to look at? Thank you!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Crewcab Turbo
Hello I have a question about my 2013 6.7. It’s in the teens and when I cold start my truck the glow plug light only goes on for a couple seconds and it seems like the glow plugs may not be working? Is it normal for the light to only be on for a couple seconds? Truck starts but sounds a but rough at first. Is this normal or is there something I need to look at? Thank you!
My 16 does it for a bit longer IIRC but you could always cycle the glow plugs more than once just turn the key back off and then on to do additional cycles.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 02:27 PM
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Modern glow plugs reach >2k° in under 3 seconds. Additionally, the light on is the minimum wait time the PCM/ECU decide on, it's not indicative that the glow plugs themselves are actually powered/active. They can cycle on/off even while running if needed (they're self-regulating). If you try to start and the PCM doesn't think it's ready yet, it won't crank. The diesel supplemental covers this though not in great detail. I'm not sure how cold it's been for you, but I wouldn't expect this to be related to it running roughly.

If you're really wanting to see operating, you can get at the module - it's under the passenger battery tray. Easy way to get at it is pulling the wheel liner.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Selta
Modern glow plugs reach >2k° in under 3 seconds. Additionally, the light on is the minimum wait time the PCM/ECU decide on, it's not indicative that the glow plugs themselves are actually powered/active. They can cycle on/off even while running if needed (they're self-regulating). If you try to start and the PCM doesn't think it's ready yet, it won't crank. The diesel supplemental covers this though not in great detail. I'm not sure how cold it's been for you, but I wouldn't expect this to be related to it running roughly.

If you're really wanting to see operating, you can get at the module - it's under the passenger battery tray. Easy way to get at it is pulling the wheel liner.
Way more detailed, and factual dare i say, response than mine...
 

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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
Way more detailed, and factual dare i say, response than mine...
Hah! I had time on my hands. I got frustrated at not finding my OEM auxilary/upfitter switch wires under the dash at all, so came on here and decided to try to be helpful Always appreciate your inputs - sometimes less words is better
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Selta
Hah! I had time on my hands. I got frustrated at not finding my OEM auxilary/upfitter switch wires under the dash at all, so came on here and decided to try to be helpful Always appreciate your inputs - sometimes less words is better
Haha... no way man... Your response made sense because the ECM with the temp sensor I'm sure determines how long the glow plugs stay on, so like you said, he may have something else going on...
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:34 AM
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ARod just did a video related to glow plug diagnostics and mentioned that the plugs stay lit up to 120 seconds if the engine temps are below 120-130.

 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drew999999
ARod just did a video related to glow plug diagnostics and mentioned that the plugs stay lit up to 120 seconds if the engine temps are below 120-130.
Well, apparently that video requires a logon to a YouTube account to watch (which I do not have, nor want). Any way you can embed the video in a post, instead of linking directly to the YouTube page?
 
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Originally Posted by JoeUser
Well, apparently that video requires a logon to a YouTube account to watch (which I do not have, nor want). Any way you can embed the video in a post, instead of linking directly to the YouTube page?
Updated the link. PTT isn't a private YouTube channel, so not sure why it wanted you to login.
 
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If a glow plug or more fail, it will set a code and may also throw a CEL. Toss a scanner on it and see if you got any codes. Something like P067x where x is the number of the cylinder having an issue. Could also be a bad module.
 
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As pointed out the plugs do run after the light is off. Any diesel ive owned or own with glow plugs, Ford or other brands is set up this way. When the light goes out the computers minimum chamber temp for starting has been met. It still may be too cold for a smooth start though and stumble a bit.

The teens are where my 6.7s always started to have cold start stumbles if turned over to quickly and especially if they sat for more than 2 days frozen.
 
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