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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 12:03 PM
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Cannot pass emissions

Hey all, I've been struggling to pass emissions these past 2 weeks. I passed the second time last year, I failed the first due to a bad plug wire, I thought I would pass this year but the truck had other plans. I am passing the hydrocarbons well, but I'm failing on the carbon monoxide. From the reading I have done, high CO is just incomplete combustion.

I pulled the plugs and they all looked healthy. I checked the fuel pressure and its 32 at idle and 40 with the FPR unplugged. The engine has a high compression ratio so I run 91 octane in it. I built a custom exhaust and put a high flow cat in it, it passed last year with this exhaust. I replaced the plug wires, cap, rotor, ICM, coil, and PIP recently. The air bypass and air diverter stuff and smog pump were not functional last year when I did the test and passed, so I removed them after the test. I pullled codes but just got 111 for koeo and then 412 for koer. The truck runs good, no major issues.

I am at a loss and I need some help, as always thank you guys so much.


 
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 12:37 PM
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Post the data sheet.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 04:03 PM
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It seems to be angry about the format let me try another one.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 04:06 PM
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Sorry, the quality is not the best.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 09:54 PM
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Sorry, the quality is not the best.
here is a link that may help. https://m.smogtips.com/failed-high-c...onoxide-CO.cfm
non-ethanol or with?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 12:49 AM
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Thank you for the link I have made a list of everything I am going to check. The list includes: TPS, MAP, ECT, HEGO, engine compression, oil contamination, PCV, fuel filter, air filter, injectors, computer/fuel trim, cat, ACT, fuel pumps, and FPR.

This was with ethanol, I decreased the octane rating of the fuel to 85, or thats what the pump said, since it passed last year on 85, but no avail. The previous tests were done on 91 octane, but they had almost the same exact results.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:58 AM
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High HC is caused by incomplete burning. Basically, some of the gas does not get burned so the gas [HC] just goes out the tail pipe. Lean mixtures cause high HC, vacuum leaks seem to be the biggest reason.

High CO is usually the fuel mixture is too rich.

Basically, I would start knowing there were no air leaks. Have someone do a smoke test if you can't. All the air must be metered and if you got a leak, it just makes it harder to pass the emissions test. Fuel pressure is important. Injector balance is also important.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 10:04 AM
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Check the brake booster grommet. They die with age. Bypass anything else off the vac tree.

100% agree on injectors. They flow all over the place with age...these trucks are over 30 years old and need the injectors serviced.

Did I miss if V8 or L6?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 05:56 PM
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When is the last time the old thing had a tune up?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Butcher
High HC is caused by incomplete burning. Basically, some of the gas does not get burned so the gas [HC] just goes out the tail pipe. Lean mixtures cause high HC, vacuum leaks seem to be the biggest reason.

High CO is usually the fuel mixture is too rich.

Basically, I would start knowing there were no air leaks. Have someone do a smoke test if you can't. All the air must be metered and if you got a leak, it just makes it harder to pass the emissions test. Fuel pressure is important. Injector balance is also important.
Makes sense, I will double check for any air leaks. Fuel pressure is steady at 32 PSI with the FPR plugged in and with it unplugged is around 40, so it is within spec. I recently took all the injectors out and blew them out with carb clean to remove any gunk in there but they functioned very well, spray pattern was amazing across the board and none of them leaked. How would I go about checking injector balance?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Check the brake booster grommet. They die with age. Bypass anything else off the vac tree.

100% agree on injectors. They flow all over the place with age...these trucks are over 30 years old and need the injectors serviced.

Did I miss if V8 or L6?
I will check all the vacuum lines. The injectors are not factory so they have been replaced, I recently took them all out and blew them out with carb clean to remove any trash inside them, but they were all clean. Its a 351w.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by '89F2urd
When is the last time the old thing had a tune up?
I rebuilt the engine last year around this time, so the plugs have been in since last year along with a new set of wires. I did take out all the plugs and they all looked healthy, they were also gapped correctly. I recently changed the cap and rotor. I replaced the fuel filter in November of last year. I just did an oil change, and installed a new air filter, a couple of weeks ago.
 
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I was curious about the catalytic converter that I installed last year, mainly I was wondering if it was getting up to temperature to actually do its job. I can't really stick a thermometer in the cat so I measured the outside temp of the cat and it was 70* F after letting it idle for about 10 minutes. Took it for a drive on the interstate and then measured it and it was at 110*F. Outside temperature is around 40*F. I would think that it would be a lot hotter, the long tubes and y pipe were about 350*F but as soon as it hit the cat it drops significantly. This may be a big contributing factor, I will do some more research into the exterior temperature of catalytic converters but ideally I would like to measure the internal temps.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Truckbuck
I was curious about the catalytic converter that I installed last year, mainly I was wondering if it was getting up to temperature to actually do its job. I can't really stick a thermometer in the cat so I measured the outside temp of the cat and it was 70* F after letting it idle for about 10 minutes. Took it for a drive on the interstate and then measured it and it was at 110*F. Outside temperature is around 40*F. I would think that it would be a lot hotter, the long tubes and y pipe were about 350*F but as soon as it hit the cat it drops significantly. This may be a big contributing factor, I will do some more research into the exterior temperature of catalytic converters but ideally I would like to measure the internal temps.
What cat is it? Does it have a heat shield? If 110* is an accurate reading of external temp, there's something definitely wrong there.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:44 PM
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This is the one I put on.
Amazon Amazon

I didn't buy a CARB complaint one because they are significantly more expensive, but I have looked into a few since I cannot pass.

It does not have a heat shield.
 
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