Bought the wrong truck. Help
More Turbo
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The 10spd changed the game drastically. My 7.3L has the 6spd behind it and its as much of a slug when loaded down as the previous gen gas engine with 6spd it replaced.
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Well, whatever tires they are.
BUT give that some thought what you said about the 450. What tires are on the 350 DRW? Which has more payload, yet both have the same GVWR. My DRW which is the same size and GVWR of the 450 has LT245/75R17E. It also has 800 pound more payload capacity.
I get what you are saying though, LT tires on a Chassis Cab 450 with a 16K GVWR would be bad.
More Turbo
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I do 13k at 1000' elevation steady 60- 65mph at 6% grade quite easily under 4k (36-4200 in the video posted) in my hood, but I was smart enough to spec 4.3 rear on my gasser.
4k ain't screaming btw.
https://youtube.com/shorts/gnpsPt1V_...eyO1YTk0BWXVdl
4k ain't screaming btw.
https://youtube.com/shorts/gnpsPt1V_...eyO1YTk0BWXVdl
Tuned
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Not disagreeing that OP has a 7.3 and not a 6.2, but my reply was about wanting the reduced stress that comes with the diesel compared to revving to 4k which is where the 7.3 also makes its power. 7.3 isn't a quiet/relaxed ride when pulling hills. While not the same engines, the experiences between the 2 gas engines are more similar than the 7.3 vs 6.7.
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Same as the 350. When paired up, the 4 tires should exceed 9900 pounds though. LI 121 is 12,000 pounds between the 4 tires. Thats the stock tire on the 350 DRW. The Commercial tires on the F450 Pickup truck is overkill for what it is, a D rate Pickup. If one wishes to buy H plate, now tires play the important part and LT tires would be a bad decision. As you said, LI 129 comes to 16,000 between the 4 tires.
More Turbo
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From: Carthage, Mo
I feel your pain, I would be exactly the same way. Although the 7.3 is very capable and designed to rev I wouldn't enjoy it either. F-350 SRW and a SO 6.7 is my recommendation. Don't overlook the benefit of engine braking in the mountains. It won't throw you through the windshield but properly executed it will keep you off the brakes on mountain grades.
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From: Chaz
I still do not understand why people buy optioned up gas trucks to tow 5th wheels with. Shouldnt even be a 6.2-7.3 debate.
Get a basic XLT 6.7. Best value, most usable, good resell.
Play with the configurator. 5th wheel prep, autofold mirrors, etc. Thats what the discussion should be.
And then if his F250 has the 3 pack rear leafs he should just stick with a base 6.7 F250. He isnt going to upgrade trailers without going long bed or dually, can almost guarantee that.
Get a basic XLT 6.7. Best value, most usable, good resell.
Play with the configurator. 5th wheel prep, autofold mirrors, etc. Thats what the discussion should be.
And then if his F250 has the 3 pack rear leafs he should just stick with a base 6.7 F250. He isnt going to upgrade trailers without going long bed or dually, can almost guarantee that.
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Tuned
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I always goof from the comparisons on this site of guys coming from first or second generation 6.2/6spd powertrain and just jumping to the current generation 6.7L powertrain without ever giving the 7.3L/10spd or even the 6.2L/10spd a try to see the vast improvement over the first gen 6.2L/6spd.
The 10spd changed the game drastically. My 7.3L has the 6spd behind it and its as much of a slug when loaded down as the previous gen gas engine with 6spd it replaced.
The 10spd changed the game drastically. My 7.3L has the 6spd behind it and its as much of a slug when loaded down as the previous gen gas engine with 6spd it replaced.
I don't get why people get so butt hurt here about what engine type others decide on. For my decision, it was my money to spend, so why does it matter so much to others? Same with OPs situation.
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Not being able to find a gas station to pull a SD with 5th wheel to top off has to be the laziest excuse I've read on here to justify a diesel. I towed a 42ft 5th wheel over 40k miles with 7.3 Godzillas from Atlantic Ocean to Pacific ocean and From Alaska down to the Mexican border. I never couldn't find a gas station.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
Cargo Master
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Not being able to find a gas station to pull a SD with 5th wheel to top off has to be the laziest excuse I've read on here to justify a diesel. I towed a 42ft 5th wheel over 40k miles with 7.3 Godzillas from Atlantic Ocean to Pacific ocean and From Alaska down to the Mexican border. I never couldn't find a gas station.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
I just know I buy what I prefer and diesel is my choice in weapons. Just prefer it because it pulls night and day nicer.
i don’t have to talk with you about the reasons necessarily other than it’s a more capable engine and suits my needs. If gas works for you just be happy?
Tuned
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Not being able to find a gas station to pull a SD with 5th wheel to top off has to be the laziest excuse I've read on here to justify a diesel. I towed a 42ft 5th wheel over 40k miles with 7.3 Godzillas from Atlantic Ocean to Pacific ocean and From Alaska down to the Mexican border. I never couldn't find a gas station.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
If towing is that stressful of an experience maybe you guys should just give up camping altogether because it sounds like a blowout would send you to the hospital with an aneurysm. An F250 with a 6.7 and a triple axle toy hauler would be a much scarier experience in a lot of scenarios than a DRW with a 7.3 towing the same trailer.
No one cares what engine anyone buys until they come in a forum trying to justify it with some of the lamest excuses there are.
Again, I'm happy that you're doing great with your setup but don't get so personal and heated about some that may want to go a different direction. Life's too short to put so much effort in something that doesn't affect you.
Tuned
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From: N. Appalachistan
Whenever I work my equipment, gas or diesel, from woodsplitter to backhoe, I pretty much run it wide open. Maybe that's why the sound of a big V8 at 4000 rpm doesn't make me stressed and uncomfortable.
The more time you spend hauling big loads up long grades, the more the diesel makes sense. But perhaps for perspective, one could ask themselves what percentage of their time is actually spent doing that specifically as opposed to taking the ol lady across town to the hobby lobby.
Get what you want, but keep it real.
The more time you spend hauling big loads up long grades, the more the diesel makes sense. But perhaps for perspective, one could ask themselves what percentage of their time is actually spent doing that specifically as opposed to taking the ol lady across town to the hobby lobby.
Get what you want, but keep it real.
Laughing Gas
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Bought a 2024 F250 Ultimate Lariat CCAB 6.75 box, 7.3L gasser to pull our 13K GVWR 5er and boy did this dog ever struggle in the hills of New Mexico, Wa, Ut, etc. Screaming up 5% grades at 4K rpm in 4th gear is a bit nerve racking while people are buzzing past pulling much larger trailers. We put less than 7K miles on this truck and are looking to trade. We will be taking a big hit to the wallet so I don't want to make the same mistake twice. The truck also sagged a bit more than I would like. SO...... Do we move to a 350 with the HO diesel, stay with a 250 w/ the diesel option and add air bags, 3.31 or 3.55 gears? And HO vs SO?
I had a 2015 250, and with the 10,000 lb gvwr limitation, it had a max cargo of 2050 lbs, what a waste of a truck. I never recommend a 250 to anyone buying a new truck. The ride isn't that much different than a 250, but you get so much more cargo capacity. And with the 10 spd transmission in a diesel, the 3.31 will pull just about anything. I proved it with my toyhauler.
Good luck in your search, do not get a 250!!
Cargo Master
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Dude... What is your issue here? We all have our own reasons. I'm happy that your setup works for you. We're all on a Ford Trucks forum for the same reasons. I have zero issues with towing and have been doing so for a LONG time and not giving it up anytime soon. SWR vs DRW isn't even what this thread is about even though you're 100% correct in your statement. As I've only towed with gas trucks in the past, I know that all the posts saying that he should have gone to the 4.3 axles only masks the symptoms that OP doesn't like. The truck pull better in any gear with those ratios, but the computer knows what power band it wants and will adjust the transmission gear selection to keep the engine in the RPM range it needs to get that done.
Again, I'm happy that you're doing great with your setup but don't get so personal and heated about some that may want to go a different direction. Life's too short to put so much effort in something that doesn't affect you.
Again, I'm happy that you're doing great with your setup but don't get so personal and heated about some that may want to go a different direction. Life's too short to put so much effort in something that doesn't affect you.