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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 11:05 PM
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Trying to get right PCM

I have a 93' f-150 automatic with a 96' 5.8l out of a 250. Took it to a local shop and they told me the PCM is bad. The problem is the PCM in the truck is for the 5.0 that originally came with the truck and they don't know the VIN for the donor truck and don't know the PCM that is supposed to be with that motor. Can someone help point me in the right direction in finding the correct PCM for that motor.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JSontchi
I have a 93' f-150 automatic with a 96' 5.8l out of a 250. Took it to a local shop and they told me the PCM is bad. The problem is the PCM in the truck is for the 5.0 that originally came with the truck and they don't know the VIN for the donor truck and don't know the PCM that is supposed to be with that motor. Can someone help point me in the right direction in finding the correct PCM for that motor.
I recently had to replace my PCM. When I took the original out and opened it up the 3 capicators on the board were leaking. I found a seller on ebay that sells 3 cap sets with the cap values for Ford. and may have yours . Had to sharpen up my soldier skills Got the caps in but still had issues with the original. So now I have gotten real good at swapping them out. The used one had 1 bad cap so prior to re-removing the orig. I just replaced all 3 in the used PCM and popped it back in. Runs like a champ "For now" As to a different PCM in a certian truck Yesterday one of the fellars on here gave me the name of an electronics shop that rebuilds them. They might could figure out the correct PCM, they seem to have a Wide variety they work with.SIA Electronics https://siaelec.com/
The fellar on here said he had good luck with them.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 01:32 PM
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I recently had to replace my PCM. When I took the original out and opened it up the 3 capicators on the board were leaking. I found a seller on ebay that sells 3 cap sets with the cap values for Ford. and may have yours . Had to sharpen up my soldier skills Got the caps in but still had issues with the original. So now I have gotten real good at swapping them out. The used one had 1 bad cap so prior to re-removing the orig. I just replaced all 3 in the used PCM and popped it back in. Runs like a champ "For now" As to a different PCM in a certian truck Yesterday one of the fellars on here gave me the name of an electronics shop that rebuilds them. They might could figure out the correct PCM, they seem to have a Wide variety they work with.SIA Electronics https://siaelec.com/
The fellar on here said he had good luck with them.
I looked at the caps and they all look good. I'm wondering if I could just buy the same PCM and it work. I've been seeing people say that the pcms can interchange but I'm not certain about that.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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Why does the shop think the existing PCM is bad?

We have seen posts going both ways stating a 5L Speed Density PCM will run a 5.8L engine, others stating their experience is otherwise. If the computer is bad, I would go with a 5.8L version that matches the transmission currently in the vehicle and the model since the emission system is different for the F150/Bronco versus the F250/F350.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Why does the shop think the existing PCM is bad?

We have seen posts going both ways stating a 5L Speed Density PCM will run a 5.8L engine, others stating their experience is otherwise. If the computer is bad, I would go with a 5.8L version that matches the transmission currently in the vehicle and the model since the emission system is different for the F150/Bronco versus the F250/F350.
They said the voltage coming to the icm is low and it would be a PCM causing that. Since I don't have the vin from the old truck the motor came out of they said they can't pinpoint which exact PCM it would need. He narrowed it down to 3 but now I'm at a standstill and I have no clue what to do.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 03:22 PM
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The ICM supply voltage comes from Fuse U in the engine compartment fuse box. The PIP signal from the distributor goes to the ICM and computer (PCM). With the SPOUT in the computer controls the timing, SPOUT out the ICM triggers off the raw PIP signal.

We need more details of the issue(s) you are experiencing. And what has been replaced already.

Basic Ignition diagram for your 1993 model year truck below.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
The ICM supply voltage comes from Fuse U in the engine compartment fuse box. The PIP signal from the distributor goes to the ICM and computer (PCM). With the SPOUT in the computer controls the timing, SPOUT out the ICM triggers off the raw PIP signal.

We need more details of the issue(s) you are experiencing. And what has been replaced already.

Basic Ignition diagram for your 1993 model year truck below.
The entire ignition system has been replaced except the icm. The fuel pumps, filter, regulator, and map have all been replaced too. After all that it cranks but no starts after it's been sitting for longer than an hour. With the key on the fuel pump runs for what seems like forever and after about 10-15 minutes of running the truck starts right off. Fuel pressure is where it's supposed to be at the Schrader. Sometimes when you do try to start it before the fuel pump shuts off it starts and runs with a check engine light on (no I don't have the code from that unless it's the 212 code) and it sounds like it's misfiring and has a really raw fuel smell. If you try to put it in drive it stays in second and doesn't shift at all and has no power whatsoever. If I give it to much gas it stumbles and backfires. If I shut it off and wait for the pump to kick off and then start it everything is fine for the most part.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the additional details. None of the symptoms point to low voltage to the ICM. Most likely a bad computer. Key symptom is a continuous running fuel pump.

I would seek out a 1993 PCM for a F150 with a 5.8L engine and same transmission as yours. There are probably a few catch codes that meet that criteria.
 
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Thanks for the additional details. None of the symptoms point to low voltage to the ICM. Most likely a bad computer. Key symptom is a continuous running fuel pump.

I would seek out a 1993 PCM for a F150 with a 5.8L engine and same transmission as yours. There are probably a few catch codes that meet that criteria.
The motor is out of a 96 f250 though and I don't have the vin from the donor. The shop narrowed it down to 3 possible choices but how would I go about choosing the right one.
 
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Your truck is a 1993 model year. You need a computer compatible with the truck, not the donor engine.

1993 models are using the older Push-Start ignition. 1994 and up are Computer Controlled Dwell (CCD) ignition.

Your 1996 donor engine from a F250 has a different emissions setup than your F150. No idea what someone did to get it to work.

Your best bet is using a 1993 computer from a F150 with the same transmission and a 5.8L engine. Using one for a later model is opening up another can of worms.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 09:23 PM
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Oh okay I didn't know that thank you I'll look into getting one and hopefully that's it. Thank you so much again.

 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005

Your 1996 donor engine from a F250 has a different emissions setup than your F150. No idea what someone did to get it to work.
Yeaaaa it required some hacking and cutting stuff out to get it to fit and all of it to work. Probably one of the messiest swaps I've seen.
 
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