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You are basing everything on camper being empty and specs from factory being correct. I have a Mobile Suites 40KSSB4 and mine came from factory with total weight being 500 lbs over brochure weight. Brochure weight is with no options. When you load for a trip, the majority of weight is in front of axels and will add pin weight. My loaded pin weight is over 4200 lbs and I am at 21K for the trailer. These coaches are heavy with the box frame and steel upper decking.
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Mountain Pass
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You are basing everything on camper being empty and specs from factory being correct. I have a Mobile Suites 40KSSB4 and mine came from factory with total weight being 500 lbs over brochure weight. Brochure weight is with no options. When you load for a trip, the majority of weight is in front of axels and will add pin weight. My loaded pin weight is over 4200 lbs and I am at 21K for the trailer. These coaches are heavy with the box frame and steel upper decking.
I do not want to get a diesel (emissions) and really didn't want to get a dually so looking into other trailers. I used to have an Open Range fifth wheel and I was really un-happy with that trailer. I wanted to get a much better trailer this time around. But one that can be safely towed with a F350 / 7.3 gas engine, so I can use the truck for every day driver also.
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[QUOTE=JS450KR;21295846]I have a 38KSSB and loaded and ready to go scaled weight is 21K with 4K pin weight.[/QUOTEF
350 is just not rated to do that with a gas engine. Could barely do it with the diesel. That kind of load commands a F450. Oh well, keep on looking.
350 is just not rated to do that with a gas engine. Could barely do it with the diesel. That kind of load commands a F450. Oh well, keep on looking.
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DRW not so much. Even my '16' DRW 6.7 will tow 5th wheel of 23,800#, load carrying capacity 6,680#.
Dual wheels make the difference.
Even a gas 7.3 DRW would give it a run for the money just wouldn't win any races if you're into racing and dragging a brick behind you.
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when looking at 5th wheels I take the GVW off the data plate and calculate the king pin wt at 20% of that number (GVW). I also look at the axles and tires to make sure they are somewhat close to what they should be carring minus the pin wt.
Never believe the stickers or what the saleperson says.
Never believe the stickers or what the saleperson says.
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Your concern should definitely be more of a SRW vs DRW rather than engine choice. Gas or diesel is going to be capable of moving that weight. The lack of engine power from the gas engine will only slow you down but doesn't have the potential to be dangerous. SRW truck with that much weight and broadside has the potential to be dangerous in operation.
Occasionally we move conex boxes from jobsites and the dimensions and weight are in the ball park of what youre looking at. Moving them with a dually is much easier altogether than any of our SRW trucks.
Occasionally we move conex boxes from jobsites and the dimensions and weight are in the ball park of what youre looking at. Moving them with a dually is much easier altogether than any of our SRW trucks.
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