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Old May 16, 2024 | 06:37 PM
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Engine Oil Temperature PID for 6.8L

Greetings all, I am working on trying to find a PID that works for Oil Temperature. I have been through every Android app and two different OBD adapters but no luck. I have a 2023 Super Duty XL with no fancy digital dash. In the 4" dash screen menu, I can see 4 values visible on 2 different tabs. The first tab has 3 values: trans temp, oil temp, and coolant temp. The second tab only shows Volts.

I am trying to put together an Android tablet dashboard to report on things I want to monitor while towing the 5er, and Oil Temp is the one thing I cannot get. I know the data it there, it is displaying right there on the dash, I just can't find anything that works at all. Been Googling for about a week and no luck so I thought I'd ask this group since you all seem to have your stuff together quite well! Thanks for these resources, it really is awesome what this group puts together!

Thanks in advance for any help!

Gary
 

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Originally Posted by Garyr2138
Greetings all, I am working on trying to find a PID that works for Oil Temperature. I have been through every Android app and two different OBD adapters but no luck. I have a 2023 Super Duty XL with no fancy digital dash. In the 4" dash screen menu, I can see 4 values visible on 2 different tabs. The first tab has 3 values: trans temp, oil temp, and coolant temp. The second tab only shows Volts.

I am trying to put together an Android tablet dashboard to report on things I want to monitor while towing the 5er, and Oil Temp is the one thing I cannot get. I know the data it there, it is displaying right there on the dash, I just can't find anything that works at all. Been Googling for about a week and no luck so I thought I'd ask this group since you all seem to have your stuff together quite well! Thanks for these resources, it really is awesome what this group puts together!

Thanks in advance for any help!

Gary
I can’t directly answer your question, and there are certain parameters that I wanted to monitor that are not available as a PID.
Oil pressure being one. Not a fix, but my solution was installing the Banks iDash. It will display a wealth of info. I know as shipped it will NOT display oil pressure, but in the near future I will be adding the module that will.
You might want to look at that as an alternative.
 
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Old May 17, 2024 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Member No. 1
I can’t directly answer your question, and there are certain parameters that I wanted to monitor that are not available as a PID.
Oil pressure being one. Not a fix, but my solution was installing the Banks iDash. It will display a wealth of info. I know as shipped it will NOT display oil pressure, but in the near future I will be adding the module that will.
You might want to look at that as an alternative.
Thank you for the reply, I've looked at that and it might be an option if nothing else works and I really want that single metric. Awful expensive to see one single parameter that I can have on my dash. First world problems, I know. Just to be clear, for anyone else who comes along these posts, I am looking for oil temp, not pressure. The truck does display the oil temp on the 4" screen in the dash (xl, no fancy digital dash gauges for me).

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Gary
 
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Old May 17, 2024 | 08:25 AM
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... Just to be clear, for anyone else who comes along these posts, I am looking for oil temp, not pressure. The truck does display the oil temp on the 4" screen in the dash (xl, no fancy digital dash gauges for me).
Gary,
To clarify your your last sentence, should that be "oil pressure" and not "oil temp" that your 4" screen is already displaying? I bolded in the quote above. Thanks.
 
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Old May 17, 2024 | 08:34 AM
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To be clear, this post was moved to this thread but it is applicable for the 6.8L Gas motor. Diesels clearly have the engine oil temp sending unit, just not the gassers. .

I've come to the conclusion that there is no oil temperature sending unit in the 2023 F250 Super Duty 6.8L Gasser. I have scoured Ford Parts and other part website that have exploded diagrams and parts and cannot, for the life of me, find an oil temperature sending unit. I ran across a post in the FORScan Forum that made sense and is why you get no data in the EOT (engine oit temp) PIDs that show up in FORScan and Torque Pro - It is calculated through other values in the PMC module
By ECMBuster - Go and look for the sensor.
If there is no temperature sensor at the oil pan/oil gallery, the engine oiltemperature is a calculation by the PCM.
Those calculations are based on Engine RPM, Vehicle speed, Engine load, Coolant temperature, etc. etc.
 

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Old May 17, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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ChadX, yessir, I meant oil temp. In the 6.8L gassers I've figured out there is no oil temp sending unit because I can't find a part number in any exploded diagram and thus no FORScan PID for it. It seems that it is a calculation in the PMC that is output on my display. I posted a quote from the FORScan forum about it. Just wanted to be thorough because there is not a lot of documentation on the 6.8's out there and when someone like me Googles it, maybe it will help. Thanks!

Gary
 
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My little center digital screen shows oil temp if I recall correctly.

It’s reading temperature from something??
 
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Originally Posted by 6.8L_V8_DRW
My little center digital screen shows oil temp if I recall correctly.

It’s reading temperature from something??
You aren't wrong, but from what I've learned it's a calculated value. There is no oil temp sending unit that I can find in a 6.8L or 7.3L for that matter. The 6.7 diesel does have one, therefore there is a PID for EOT. A member in the forscan forum outlined that is a calculated value in the PCM and because it's a calculated value based on many other factors, there's no PID to just display out temp. The only thing I haven't looked for is a wiring harness exploded diagram to see if there's anything I'm missing but I certainly can't find a oil temp sending unit in that truck.

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The 7.3 and probably the 6.8 don't have a temp sensor or oil pressure sensor. They are working towards making the engines like an iPhone where we'll have to fight for the right to repair. No underhood light, no trans dipstick, "lifetime" coolant. They don't want you to be able to work on your truck yourself.
 
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Originally Posted by OBS460
The 7.3 and probably the 6.8 don't have a temp sensor or oil pressure sensor. They are working towards making the engines like an iPhone where we'll have to fight for the right to repair. No underhood light, no trans dipstick, "lifetime" coolant. They don't want you to be able to work on your truck yourself.
You're correct on all three counts. Neither the 7.3 or 6.8 have an oil pressure sending unit and yes, they are doing everything they can to make these so complex you can't work on them yourself. I'm surprised Ford still allows you to log your own oil changes!
 
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