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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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Block Differences?

Any differences between the 7.3L and 6.8L engine blocks?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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With the little bit of info I can find, it appears as the blocks are the same. Both come out of that Windsor Canada Ford plant.

6.8L has tadbit higher compression pistons, shorter rods, cast crank. 6.8L gets the 10L100 gas tranny.

Have not found info on the cams and heads.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 11:24 AM
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That's what I am thinking, but have not been able to confirm yet. There is some debate about the crank too. It is shorter stroke than the 7.3L but some sources say it's cast, some say forged.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
That's what I am thinking, but have not been able to confirm yet. There is some debate about the crank too. It is shorter stroke than the 7.3L but some sources say it's cast, some say forged.
Crank is cast. No debate there.

The shorter stroke is from shorter rods. Deck height of blocks are probably the same.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2024 | 09:02 PM
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Yes, the deck heights are the same. I thought the 6.8L's crank had shorter throws and the connecting rods were longer.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2024 | 09:45 AM
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Rods don't change stroke; crank throughs determine stroke.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2024 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 67_4_ME
Rods don't change stroke; crank throughs determine stroke.
Yes that is right. I was stuck on something from 1988 I built my last junkyard SBC with the guidance of Dr. Chilton.

I thought I had read something about different rods but I am unable to find it again so it must have been a dream.

Looks like only know differences is crank and 6.8 gets the 100G tranny. It would be good to see a definitive parts list of the 2 motors to compare.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2024 | 12:43 PM
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Rods don't change stroke; crank throughs determine stroke.
Yes, but the rods still could be a different length depending on the pistons and crank.
 
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Thanks for all the replys, it does appear the blocks are the same between the 7.3L and the 6.8L. The crank is the only notable difference. The 6.8L must either use a longer rod or a piston with the pin located lower to compensate for the shorter crank throws.

The other question I can't seem to find an answer to is how much does a bare 7.3L (or 6.8L) block weight? I can't believe no one has weighed one yet, but all I can find so far are inaccurate guesses.
 
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
Thanks for all the replys, it does appear the blocks are the same between the 7.3L and the 6.8L. The crank is the only notable difference. The 6.8L must either use a longer rod or a piston with the pin located lower to compensate for the shorter crank throws.

The other question I can't seem to find an answer to is how much does a bare 7.3L (or 6.8L) block weight? I can't believe no one has weighed one yet, but all I can find so far are inaccurate guesses.
10.8 compression on 6.8 vs 10.5 on the 7.3 is a difference, but why it is different is still unclear.

All I want in my 6.8 is not to have the 7.3 lifters.

I was planning to take my motor out and weigh it but I keep getting side tracked. Hopefully I will get this motor weighed soon.

 
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
Yes, the deck heights are the same. I thought the 6.8L's crank had shorter throws and the connecting rods were longer.
The rods are likely to be longer to accommodate the shorter crank. Another question how did Ford increase compression. Different pistons or heads?
 
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I don't think it makes sense for Ford to redesign the head for a 6.8. The pistons are likely to be the same, with only the rods being a little longer. The little bump in compression is probably gained in rod length.
 
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I don't think it makes sense for Ford to redesign the head for a 6.8. The pistons are likely to be the same, with only the rods being a little longer. The little bump in compression is probably gained in rod length.
Increasing rod length to increase compression assumes that the 7.3 piston surface is below the block deck surface which I don't think it is.
 
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The rod length on the 7.3L is 6.139"

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/ford-73l-godzilla-v8/


Can't find info on the 6.8L


 
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