Ran across this article.
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/0...ance-companies

Your newer internet connected vehicles are spying on you, and reporting on how you drive. I think I will stick with my 2019 as the newest one for now.

 

"if you got nothing to hide, it's no different than your iphone location tracking"

-Car maker apologists every time people raise privacy concerns about electronic driving nannies.

Remember, whatever is constantly watching to "assist" you is always constantly taking notes.

Sometimes I think I will never get rid of my 18 year old Ford sedan of which the most advanced feature is ABS and traction control. LOL.

 

Yep, my insurance agent offered me a discount. Catch was I had to download their app to my phone, which I was certain would track me daily. I immediately declined. I will pay a little extra to maintain my personal freedom as an American (even if it's not going to last forever).

What happens if it's our first sunny and 75 day and I just left work in my Mustang GT and I want to open it up for a few seconds on an open stretch of highway? Is the app going to throw a flag, alert my insurance company, and then I get a rate increase in the mail? Screw that. This invasion of privacy is going way too far.

 

Your 19 is doing the same thing. I had to take an unexpected 6k mile trip a few years ago and I went over my milage plan for my insurance. The following month I received a notice from my insurance company that my rate would be going up for the next six months. I never called them and told them my milage so obviously Ford is providing the data to insurance companies.

 

Hence, my yanking the fuse for the telematics and turning off Wi-Fi in Sync3. Sure, I can't remotely retrieve my mileage info or remotely start my truck using FordPass (which I don't use anyhow), but small price to pay to keep my privacy.

I also don't connect my phone to Sync3; Ford has no business knowing what's on my phone (contacts, messages, etc.).

 

Only if the modem is enabled. It can be defeated in the older models, but the newer ones that rely on the modem for navigation and updates, good luck. I don't really need ford pass, so I am going to unplug the modem and not worry about it.

 

This is exactly why the fuses got yanked out and every wire disconnected off that 5G spyware device behind the rear seat. It broke the compass so I guess that worked to kill that RF.

I still have not found the wireless modem or antenna to disconnect. I hear it is behind the dash somewhere but cannot verify 100%.

 

This is an informative thread that might interest those with these kind of questions: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...g-diagram.html

 

Thanks, bookmarked, this spring when weather improves I will get on it. I am doing this with my 4Runner too. Seems like each forum has its own set of people who went through the trouble to figure out how to unplug it. I suspect as time goes on it will be harder and harder to disconnect the cellular modem both physically, as well as not triggering error codes.

 

That is the most useful thread of this forum for me.

However still have not found the WIFI modem, but have not rip into dash or headliner yet to finish my RF disconnect.

 

It's not "Big Brother."
It's big business.

 

I could care less. But hey I have nothing to hide.

 

There is no difference between the two.

 

Big Brother + Big Business = Big Money

 

How do you think this privacy issue can be stopped?
LEGISLATION.