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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 08:09 AM
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Question eod4 vs 4r100

I am fairly new to working on my on vehicles, especially my 1994 f150 which I bought myself recently, I was shopping around for transmissions and was wondering if I'd be able to use a 4r100 with a junkyard/reman 5.0? I've read around that some things may need to be adapted but everywhere I look its different. Just some advise for a novice
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:19 AM
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You'll need an adapter made because the 4R100 never mated to the small block. Also, you'll need to change the solenoid body and make some orifice changes in the pump body. It's possible, but I'll bet you could buy three or four E4ODs for what it would cost to make a 4R100 work.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:41 AM
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If I was to buy a reman EO4D transmission where should I look? I know it's going to be more but I want to do it right, not twice.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gh05tryder
If I was to buy a reman EO4D transmission where should I look? I know it's going to be more but I want to do it right, not twice.
Do you plan on doing mods to the 5.0? no offense but if you keep a stock-ish 5.0 and you get a reman e4od with a modest retrofit of improved 4r100 internals and possibly a fix to allow cooler flow in reverse(if you plan to trailer a lot) ... you should upgrade the cooling by adding a transmission cooler in front of your condensor and use the radiator, however, get new cooler lines that are larger diameter and maybe even just replace the radiator to get a new cooler without any debris that could kill your reman trans. use quality mercon v fluid
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:53 AM
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Well my plan as of now was to take the current engine and trans out of it, put in the reman 5.0 and EO4D and tear down the current engine and build it, heads, cam, injectors, etc. That's the reason I was asking about the 4r100, I know it can handle the extra stress of torque and horse.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 10:05 AM
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If you spend enough time researching the E4OD, you may have the skills to rebuild the transmission yourself. There are plenty of sites and videos that show how to take them apart. Some of the are really really boring [Transmission Bench] but if you can stay away, you will see, it's not that hard.

Many of the early transmissions failed but Ford updated/upgraded those part. Many of them just swap right out.

My experience is with Mercedes transmissions and when I did my E4OD, I took my time and was successful when I was done. I purchased a core transmission and rebuilt that.
 
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I would like to rebuild the transmission myself yes, but my main goal is getting the truck driving. When I have the time to rebuild it I will and then I have a backup worst case.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 10:32 AM
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That is why I bought a core to rebuild. Fortunately the core was fairly good. I took my time buying all the upgraded parts. Took my time to machine parts to fit [extra clutches]. Took my time to gather enough money to make this work. In the end, I got the original transmission [nothing really wrong with it] set aside as to install if I have a problem with the one I rebuilt. I use my truck to tow my 5th wheel.

Lots of the diesel parts will fit. Lots of diesel gears are a bit stronger than what was installed in a small block version transmission.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 11:53 AM
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I have no experience with their E4OD rebuilds but the A4LD I bought from PATC for the Bronco II has been great.

If you could buy a junkyard E4OD transmission for not much money to rebuild yourself would be a good way to go. That is if you have the tools and time to do that in case your first try at a rebuild doesn’t work. I assume you have determined that the current transmission has a too many miles to be trusted or has failed mechanically to keep using it?
 
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
I have no experience with their E4OD rebuilds but the A4LD I bought from PATC for the Bronco II has been great.

If you could buy a junkyard E4OD transmission for not much money to rebuild yourself would be a good way to go. That is if you have the tools and time to do that in case your first try at a rebuild doesn’t work. I assume you have determined that the current transmission has a too many miles to be trusted or has failed mechanically to keep using it?
Well currently the engine/transmission has 179k miles on it the engine needs a new head gasket and the transmission needs a linkage for drive, I would ultimately like to rebuild both the engine and transmission and while doing so drive the truck with the reman engine/transmission. Currently I work and go to school so I physically do not have the time to do so and am in the process of purchasing the reman combo.
 
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The “transmission needs a linkage for drive”? What does that mean? How are you driving it if the shifter cable is missing?

So you are going to buy an engine and transmission to use while you rebuild the old engine and transmission? Then what? Sell the reman engine and trans and try to get some money back? That plan sounds extremely expensive and time consuming. With that many miles I doubt you will be able to do a backyard rebuild without needing some machine work done to the block.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
The “transmission needs a linkage for drive”? What does that mean? How are you driving it if the shifter cable is missing?

So you are going to buy an engine and transmission to use while you rebuild the old engine and transmission? Then what? Sell the reman engine and trans and try to get some money back? That plan sounds extremely expensive and time consuming. With that many miles I doubt you will be able to do a backyard rebuild without needing some machine work done to the block.
The truck never drove to begin with, I bought it 2nd hand from someone as a project. It ran, but did not drive, when you shift it from park to drive it does not move. As for my plan for the engine/transmission, I am going to buy the reman combo to use while I work on building the current engine transmission for power, once I swap back the original power/drivetrain I will have a backup engine/transmission should something catastrophically fail. I bought the truck for how clean the frame/body was, not entirely for it being driving/running.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You'll need an adapter made because the 4R100 never mated to the small block. Also, you'll need to change the solenoid body and make some orifice changes in the pump body. It's possible, but I'll bet you could buy three or four E4ODs for what it would cost to make a 4R100 work.
hey Mark...glad I caught you in this conversation...just got off the phone with my son. E4OD is toast in our 94...do you have a recommendation for a rebuild/reman shop? Looked at a few just Googling but I know you're the expert. Thanks for whatever advice you can give. And no,rebuild isn't possible. My son is a state away from me.
 
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Sorry, I don't have a recommendation for a shop.
 
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Thanks Mark..I understand
 
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