Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

eod4 vs 4r100

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 08:09 AM
  #1  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Question eod4 vs 4r100

I am fairly new to working on my on vehicles, especially my 1994 f150 which I bought myself recently, I was shopping around for transmissions and was wondering if I'd be able to use a 4r100 with a junkyard/reman 5.0? I've read around that some things may need to be adapted but everywhere I look its different. Just some advise for a novice
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:19 AM
  #2  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,695
Likes: 2,616
From: SE Florida
You'll need an adapter made because the 4R100 never mated to the small block. Also, you'll need to change the solenoid body and make some orifice changes in the pump body. It's possible, but I'll bet you could buy three or four E4ODs for what it would cost to make a 4R100 work.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:41 AM
  #3  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
If I was to buy a reman EO4D transmission where should I look? I know it's going to be more but I want to do it right, not twice.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:44 AM
  #4  
AuroraGirl's Avatar
AuroraGirl
Lead Driver
Shutterbug
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 5,208
Likes: 798
Originally Posted by gh05tryder
If I was to buy a reman EO4D transmission where should I look? I know it's going to be more but I want to do it right, not twice.
Do you plan on doing mods to the 5.0? no offense but if you keep a stock-ish 5.0 and you get a reman e4od with a modest retrofit of improved 4r100 internals and possibly a fix to allow cooler flow in reverse(if you plan to trailer a lot) ... you should upgrade the cooling by adding a transmission cooler in front of your condensor and use the radiator, however, get new cooler lines that are larger diameter and maybe even just replace the radiator to get a new cooler without any debris that could kill your reman trans. use quality mercon v fluid
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 09:53 AM
  #5  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Well my plan as of now was to take the current engine and trans out of it, put in the reman 5.0 and EO4D and tear down the current engine and build it, heads, cam, injectors, etc. That's the reason I was asking about the 4r100, I know it can handle the extra stress of torque and horse.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 10:05 AM
  #6  
1Butcher's Avatar
1Butcher
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 998
If you spend enough time researching the E4OD, you may have the skills to rebuild the transmission yourself. There are plenty of sites and videos that show how to take them apart. Some of the are really really boring [Transmission Bench] but if you can stay away, you will see, it's not that hard.

Many of the early transmissions failed but Ford updated/upgraded those part. Many of them just swap right out.

My experience is with Mercedes transmissions and when I did my E4OD, I took my time and was successful when I was done. I purchased a core transmission and rebuilt that.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 10:19 AM
  #7  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
I would like to rebuild the transmission myself yes, but my main goal is getting the truck driving. When I have the time to rebuild it I will and then I have a backup worst case.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 10:32 AM
  #8  
1Butcher's Avatar
1Butcher
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 998
That is why I bought a core to rebuild. Fortunately the core was fairly good. I took my time buying all the upgraded parts. Took my time to machine parts to fit [extra clutches]. Took my time to gather enough money to make this work. In the end, I got the original transmission [nothing really wrong with it] set aside as to install if I have a problem with the one I rebuilt. I use my truck to tow my 5th wheel.

Lots of the diesel parts will fit. Lots of diesel gears are a bit stronger than what was installed in a small block version transmission.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 11:53 AM
  #9  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,763
Likes: 2,420
I have no experience with their E4OD rebuilds but the A4LD I bought from PATC for the Bronco II has been great.

If you could buy a junkyard E4OD transmission for not much money to rebuild yourself would be a good way to go. That is if you have the tools and time to do that in case your first try at a rebuild doesn’t work. I assume you have determined that the current transmission has a too many miles to be trusted or has failed mechanically to keep using it?
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 12:01 PM
  #10  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
I have no experience with their E4OD rebuilds but the A4LD I bought from PATC for the Bronco II has been great.

If you could buy a junkyard E4OD transmission for not much money to rebuild yourself would be a good way to go. That is if you have the tools and time to do that in case your first try at a rebuild doesn’t work. I assume you have determined that the current transmission has a too many miles to be trusted or has failed mechanically to keep using it?
Well currently the engine/transmission has 179k miles on it the engine needs a new head gasket and the transmission needs a linkage for drive, I would ultimately like to rebuild both the engine and transmission and while doing so drive the truck with the reman engine/transmission. Currently I work and go to school so I physically do not have the time to do so and am in the process of purchasing the reman combo.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2024 | 12:13 PM
  #11  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,763
Likes: 2,420
The “transmission needs a linkage for drive”? What does that mean? How are you driving it if the shifter cable is missing?

So you are going to buy an engine and transmission to use while you rebuild the old engine and transmission? Then what? Sell the reman engine and trans and try to get some money back? That plan sounds extremely expensive and time consuming. With that many miles I doubt you will be able to do a backyard rebuild without needing some machine work done to the block.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2024 | 05:51 PM
  #12  
gh05tryder's Avatar
gh05tryder
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
The “transmission needs a linkage for drive”? What does that mean? How are you driving it if the shifter cable is missing?

So you are going to buy an engine and transmission to use while you rebuild the old engine and transmission? Then what? Sell the reman engine and trans and try to get some money back? That plan sounds extremely expensive and time consuming. With that many miles I doubt you will be able to do a backyard rebuild without needing some machine work done to the block.
The truck never drove to begin with, I bought it 2nd hand from someone as a project. It ran, but did not drive, when you shift it from park to drive it does not move. As for my plan for the engine/transmission, I am going to buy the reman combo to use while I work on building the current engine transmission for power, once I swap back the original power/drivetrain I will have a backup engine/transmission should something catastrophically fail. I bought the truck for how clean the frame/body was, not entirely for it being driving/running.
 

Last edited by gh05tryder; Mar 4, 2024 at 05:52 PM. Reason: Additional context
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2024 | 07:21 PM
  #13  
ABR3's Avatar
ABR3
Mountain Pass
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 116
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You'll need an adapter made because the 4R100 never mated to the small block. Also, you'll need to change the solenoid body and make some orifice changes in the pump body. It's possible, but I'll bet you could buy three or four E4ODs for what it would cost to make a 4R100 work.
hey Mark...glad I caught you in this conversation...just got off the phone with my son. E4OD is toast in our 94...do you have a recommendation for a rebuild/reman shop? Looked at a few just Googling but I know you're the expert. Thanks for whatever advice you can give. And no,rebuild isn't possible. My son is a state away from me.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2024 | 07:22 PM
  #14  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,695
Likes: 2,616
From: SE Florida
Sorry, I don't have a recommendation for a shop.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2024 | 07:27 PM
  #15  
ABR3's Avatar
ABR3
Mountain Pass
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 116
Likes: 21
Thanks Mark..I understand
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
black & blue 78/9
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
Feb 19, 2023 08:14 PM
HogTied
2009 - 2014 F150
18
Jul 25, 2022 06:27 PM
jyarosz
2021+ F150
10
Sep 11, 2021 01:57 PM
Alexander Morgan
2021+ F150
18
May 9, 2021 04:53 PM
640 CI Aluminum FORD
2009 - 2014 F150
44
Jul 24, 2012 03:37 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE