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Old Feb 10, 2024 | 10:11 PM
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Electric Fuel Pumps

I have a 1987 F150 4WD with a 300 six cylinder. Got it 10 years or so back and never finished it. It has 2 fuel tanks and fuel problems. It has an add on external electric fuel pump and one fuel tank is not operable. Did these have electric fuel pumps in the fuel tanks or a block mounted mechanical pump and an electric diverter valve between pumps? Seems like I disabled the add on fuel pump and it still ran.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2024 | 11:41 PM
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1987 was the first year of the efi system in the F-series trucks that requires 40-60 psi. The pumps in the tanks are a carry-over from the carb days and only deliver around 7psi. The frame mounted fuel pump was added by ford in 1987 to boost the 7psi fuel pressure from the tank pumps up to 40-60 psi for the fuel injection system.
there was no mechanical fuel pump option in these years for efi trucks. If you see a mechanical fuel pump block off plate on the side of your engine cover, that's because ford was still producing carbureted truck engines til 1989, and your engine could have had a carb on it.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2024 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Prototypemech
1987 was the first year of the efi system in the F-series trucks that requires 40-60 psi. The pumps in the tanks are a carry-over from the carb days and only deliver around 7psi. The frame mounted fuel pump was added by ford in 1987 to boost the 7psi fuel pressure from the tank pumps up to 40-60 psi for the fuel injection system.
there was no mechanical fuel pump option in these years for efi trucks. If you see a mechanical fuel pump block off plate on the side of your engine cover, that's because ford was still producing carbureted truck engines til 1989, and your engine could have had a carb on it.
So expanding on that ... If there's a tank fuel pump and the engine has a mechanical pump ... Will they both work together and if the in tank pump fails will the mechanical pump pull through the failed tank pump ?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2024 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Bucket Ohio
So expanding on that ... If there's a tank fuel pump and the engine has a mechanical pump ... Will they both work together and if the in tank pump fails will the mechanical pump pull through the failed tank pump ?
That's a very undesirable setup. If the diaphragm in the mechanical pump fails, the electric pump will pump raw gas into the crank case through the broken diaphragm. Plus, the electric pump will produce 7 psi and the mechanical pump will produce 7 psi which means the carb will have to deal with 14psi, which it don't like. It's just a bad setup and if you see this, it's a bandaid to fix an existing problem.
But to answer your question, yes, the mechanical pump will suck though a failed electric pump because the electric pump is centrifugal impeller pump, but it'll have a pressure drop due to the restriction of the electric pumps one-way valve.
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BobcatNT
Did these have electric fuel pumps in the fuel tanks or a block mounted mechanical pump and an electric diverter valve between pumps?
This was already answered but there is a low pressure pump in each tank. The fuel then goes to the (mechanical) Dual Function Reservoir. The fuel pressure/ flow from the selected tank moves the valve to allow fuel to flow to the high pressure pump on the frame rail. After that it goes to the engine and unused fuel goes back to the tank.

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So expanding on that ... If there's a tank fuel pump and the engine has a mechanical pump ... Will they both work together and if the in tank pump fails will the mechanical pump pull through the failed tank pump ?
I don’t understand the question. You would have 50-60 psi from the high pressure pump feeding a mechanical pump on the engine. What are you trying to accomplish?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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I don’t understand the question. You would have 50-60 psi from the high pressure pump feeding a mechanical pump on the engine. What are you trying to accomplish?[/QUOTE]
Just asking ... I have an 88 that has the tank pump and the high pressure pump. Considering putting my 300 in which is an 86 with a carb . If I do that I can delete the high pressure pump and use the in tank pump or delete both electric pumps and use the mechanical pump on the 300 ... Which would not be computer controlled ...
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:10 AM
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Wonder if you can replace the tank pumps with later model high pressure tank pumps and skip the 3rd pump?
 
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Originally Posted by BobcatNT
Wonder if you can replace the tank pumps with later model high pressure tank pumps and skip the 3rd pump?
I think the tank also needs to be replaced because the opening is larger but I could be wrong. I’m pretty sure there are threads about it but why? I replaced the tanks and in-tank pumps when I got my truck because the “gas” in the tanks was more like syrup after sitting 10 years. I haven’t done anything else to the fuel system since. That was 12+ years ago.
 
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