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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockie
I prefer shackles only because I like to take them off when I know I won't be using them for an extended amount of time.

But WOW.. Lots of bad advice here. If you decide on a shackle you MUST use a "bolt" type shackle. Every other type of shackle show here on this thread is a "pin" type. Pin shackles will generally shear the threads of the pin with much lower amounts of side load compared to the bolt types. You also want a capture spring or cotter pin to protect against losing the bolt and having a POUND of metal vibrating off YOUR truck and killing somebody's kid because it's bouncing down the road at 70mph. A pin-type shackle can (and will) come loose and fall off. I went with 2 USA made CM 5/8" 4.5Ton (minimum 54,000lb breaking limit) shackles. This is what you want:
WOW, MUST use a "bolt" type. Talk about over kill. The pin type will shear at a lower side load than a bolt type but the pin type has more than enough capacity. Please provide specifics on the side load a 3/4" pin shackle will fail.

The hole in the head of the pin shackle I have allows for it to be safety wired to prevent it from turning but I have not found that necessary. The pin has never loosened. I've had times where I needed pliers to loosen the pin after it was hand tightened.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 07:26 AM
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Depending on how they are mounted I think he is saying the pin type can flex and rip the threads out with excessive side loads.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
Depending on how they are mounted I think he is saying the pin type can flex and rip the threads out with excessive side loads.
For the trailers that I haul, I'm thinking the safety chain itself or the steel of the receiver hitch loop will let loose long before a 3/4 shackle will.
But I'm hoping to never find out.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
For the trailers that I haul, I'm thinking the safety chain itself or the steel of the receiver hitch loop will let loose long before a 3/4 shackle will.
But I'm hoping to never find out.
The cheesy chains will give out long before a clevis or hammer locks.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
The cheesy chains will give out long before a clevis or hammer locks.
Or on at least one of my trailers the cheesy attachment point for the chain.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
Or on at least one of my trailers the cheesy attachment point for the chain.
I was thinking of that after posting about a poor weld or a small bolt holding it to the trailer.

 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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I am not concerned with my 5/8" screw pin D-ring shackle breaking, or un-screwing itself (as tight as I installed it), in my 10,000# pound trailer applications. The failure point would be in the safety chain hook at one of these points.

 
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Old Jan 31, 2024 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by philips
I am not concerned with my 5/8" screw pin D-ring shackle breaking, or un-screwing itself (as tight as I installed it), in my 10,000# pound trailer applications. The failure point would be in the safety chain hook at one of these points.
If you had that much pressure or torque being put on those points I dare say you have bigger problems happening to be worried about.
 
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