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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith-OR
It also has K code with an overdrive transmission..,
All of Ford's documentation states Trans Code K is a non-overdrive 3 speed C6. If there was some type of "special order" E4OD the label would state Trans Code E.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 09:12 PM
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I haven't looked yet, I had other thing to do today.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith-OR
Since I cannot find a PCM anywhere on this 1988 Ford, how is the E4OD controlled.
That sure went off track quickly.

The question should be what model 1988 Ford does this come out of? If it is a gas fueled F series truck, the ECM will be in the usual position mounted through the firewall into the left side kick panel area. If it is a diesel fueled truck, it may not have an engine ECM, but it will have an EECIV style ECM to control the transmission and I'm not sure where they are mounted. If it is an E series van, the ECM lives in the right hand kick panel area under the dash. The diesel bellhousing is similar, but not directly compatible with the 335/385 series gas engines.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cougrrcj
Not quite.

351M/400 use the same bellhousing pattern as 429/460.
i meant that the e4od will only fit behind other 460s , like, stock. I knew that but I figured throwing that at the OP he might think he has 400
Lol. I had a 400 with a C6 in my 77 LTD.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NotEnoughTrucks2014
That sure went off track quickly.

The question should be what model 1988 Ford does this come out of? If it is a gas fueled F series truck, the ECM will be in the usual position mounted through the firewall into the left side kick panel area. If it is a diesel fueled truck, it may not have an engine ECM, but it will have an EECIV style ECM to control the transmission and I'm not sure where they are mounted. If it is an E series van, the ECM lives in the right hand kick panel area under the dash. The diesel bellhousing is similar, but not directly compatible with the 335/385 series gas engines.
this truck does not have a factory electronically controlled transmission. if its a fuel injected truck ,it has a computer anyway but it would be under the dash I thought
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Keith-OR
I also have a 1988 F250 4x4 with 7.3 diesel and an E4d0 , it is a special heavy duty truck. when I was doing brakes I had to order rotors and pads for 97 super Duty 4x4. I have all the original paper work for the truck, all I can figure is it was a special order truck. One owner, I am second owner of the truck. I am completely redoing the 88 4x4, it has a Ford Motor company replacement engine. It also has K code with an overdrive transmission..,
if your truck uses 97 super duty 4x4 parts it sounds like you just have a 1997 super duty drivetrain and axles swapped onto a 1988 F250 frame am i wrong?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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There is so much wrong with this thread. Lots of questions but not many answers. What transmission it is really? What engine family was it connected to? I seriously doubt there was a special order with the wrong trans code on the door sticker. When did Ford make a four wheel drive F-Super Duty? I thought they were all two wheel drive.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
There is so much wrong with this thread. Lots of questions but not many answers. What transmission it is really? What engine family was it connected to? I seriously doubt there was a special order with the wrong trans code on the door sticker. When did Ford make a four wheel drive F-Super Duty? I thought they were all two wheel drive.
a 1997-2015 or so super duty came 4wd
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AuroraGirl
a 1997-2015 or so super duty came 4wd
Nope. A 1997 F-Superduty would be an “OBS”. There was no ‘98 and then the Super Duty F-250/350 trucks started production in ‘99 are completely different than the previous generation.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Nope. A 1997 F-Superduty would be an “OBS”. There was no ‘98 and then the Super Duty F-250/350 trucks started production in ‘99 are completely different than the previous generation.
my bad, I misremember the date of the large superdutys, they came with v10s and diesels. That generation. So yeah the 99. My bad, I had my time line a little skewed. Yeah I have no idea what hes smoking to have a 4x4, Maybe the OP has a driveline from a 1997 Ford 250(or 350) heavy duty 4x4?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2024 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith-OR
I did not say that the E4OD was behind the 351 M, I have an E4OD and a 460 that I am going to transplant them into my 1980 F350 dually. as of present time the 80 has a 351M with 4 spd and I want to go with 460 and automatic . I need the power as I live in eastern Oregon and when I run east on I-84, I have to climb Cabbage hill up into the Blue mountains. And Cabbage hill is a 7% grade.
Originally Posted by Keith-OR
I also have a 1988 F250 4x4 with 7.3 diesel and an E4d0 , it is a special heavy duty truck. when I was doing brakes I had to order rotors and pads for 97 super Duty 4x4. I have all the original paper work for the truck, all I can figure is it was a special order truck. One owner, I am second owner of the truck. I am completely redoing the 88 4x4, it has a Ford Motor company replacement engine. It also has K code with an overdrive transmission..,
I'll admit I'm pretty confused over what we are actually talking about here, but based on the above, Keith has 2 trucks, a 1980 F350 dually, currently with a 351M and a 4 speed and a 1988 F250 diesel with an automatic. As the E4OD was introduced in 1989 and the F250 has trans code K, it's safe to say the 1988 F250 has a C6, not an E4OD. This may be why he cannot find an ECM in his 88 truck as the diesel/C6 would not have one. He also has a 460 with an E4OD that he wishes to transplant into the 80 F350. Presumably, this engine and transmission has no ECM and not knowing where it came from, I would have no clue as to where he would find it. The 460 received EFI in 1988 and would require an ECM. One again must assume that the 460/E4OD combination is at the very oldest, 1989 and Keith obtained the engine/trans without a vehicle. If this is the case, he would have to obtain EFI components and wiring separately and install them as a stand alone system in his 1980 F350. I think this would best be accomplished with an aftermarket stand alone ECM such as a Holley Terminator for the engine and USShift for the transmission as the Holley product will not support the E4OD. You could source the Microsquirt or PimpX product which I believe will support SD batch fire EFI for the 460 and control the E4OD.
 
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