View Poll Results: Ford should provide cost effective change option for 10 speed trannys
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10 SPEED TRANSMISSION FROM HELL
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hear that ,how much is it going to cost them over the new 1.9 million unit explorer recall for 9 years of production
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I've read that there aren't even parts available now to rebuild a 6.4l that fails.
Does
even repair these 10R80s that are out of warranty, or does the truck just sit at a dealership indefinitely?
Does
even repair these 10R80s that are out of warranty, or does the truck just sit at a dealership indefinitely?
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It looks like they do and are available, Fords aren't the only option when looking for repairs.
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Has anyone found any information on whether these transmissions have had any updates to the internal problem ares? If so, do the new individual transmissions have those updates?
In my Navigator, the dealer sent it out for rebuild, as there were no new units available at the time. I suspect that's what most dealers are doing anyway, as it's about half the price of a new one. The problems is that the third party rebuilder will only repair the visibly damaged parts, with the same replacement parts.
It really comes down to an overall poor design. In my opinion the 10 speed was designed for economy first, at the expense of durability.
Also, I have never minded a firm shifting transmission, it doesn't bother me to fell it working. I prefer that to a "buttery" transmission that is designed with a lot of slip. But no one likes an erratic, unpredictable transmission or one that constantly hunts around for gears. And what's the point of 10 speeds if three of the speeds are overdrives?
In my Navigator, the dealer sent it out for rebuild, as there were no new units available at the time. I suspect that's what most dealers are doing anyway, as it's about half the price of a new one. The problems is that the third party rebuilder will only repair the visibly damaged parts, with the same replacement parts.
It really comes down to an overall poor design. In my opinion the 10 speed was designed for economy first, at the expense of durability.
Also, I have never minded a firm shifting transmission, it doesn't bother me to fell it working. I prefer that to a "buttery" transmission that is designed with a lot of slip. But no one likes an erratic, unpredictable transmission or one that constantly hunts around for gears. And what's the point of 10 speeds if three of the speeds are overdrives?
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Has anyone found any information on whether these transmissions have had any updates to the internal problem ares? If so, do the new individual transmissions have those updates?
In my Navigator, the dealer sent it out for rebuild, as there were no new units available at the time. I suspect that's what most dealers are doing anyway, as it's about half the price of a new one. The problems is that the third party rebuilder will only repair the visibly damaged parts, with the same replacement parts.
It really comes down to an overall poor design. In my opinion the 10 speed was designed for economy first, at the expense of durability.
Also, I have never minded a firm shifting transmission, it doesn't bother me to fell it working. I prefer that to a "buttery" transmission that is designed with a lot of slip. But no one likes an erratic, unpredictable transmission or one that constantly hunts around for gears. And what's the point of 10 speeds if three of the speeds are overdrives?
In my Navigator, the dealer sent it out for rebuild, as there were no new units available at the time. I suspect that's what most dealers are doing anyway, as it's about half the price of a new one. The problems is that the third party rebuilder will only repair the visibly damaged parts, with the same replacement parts.
It really comes down to an overall poor design. In my opinion the 10 speed was designed for economy first, at the expense of durability.
Also, I have never minded a firm shifting transmission, it doesn't bother me to fell it working. I prefer that to a "buttery" transmission that is designed with a lot of slip. But no one likes an erratic, unpredictable transmission or one that constantly hunts around for gears. And what's the point of 10 speeds if three of the speeds are overdrives?
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When my 10R80 was rebuilt the service manager said an updated CDF was installed. Of course, after the transmission was finally replaced I wonder if the new transmission has that updated part?
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The 8 speed in my Ram is the smoothest, best shift points transmission I have ever had, and the gear spacing is just right.
I hope it last. I only have around 34k miles on it now. Time will tell.
I hope it last. I only have around 34k miles on it now. Time will tell.
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Same here, in a Wagoneer and Wrangler that we have. I thought the Torqshift was my favorite until now that we have two of these ZF based 8 speeds.
I can't figure out why Ford quit their licensing agreement with ZF and allowed Chrysler to have it. Going in with GM on the 10R80/10L80 has been nothing but a blunder.
I can't figure out why Ford quit their licensing agreement with ZF and allowed Chrysler to have it. Going in with GM on the 10R80/10L80 has been nothing but a blunder.
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Same here, in a Wagoneer and Wrangler that we have. I thought the Torqshift was my favorite until now that we have two of these ZF based 8 speeds.
I can't figure out why Ford quit their licensing agreement with ZF and allowed Chrysler to have it. Going in with GM on the 10R80/10L80 has been nothing but a blunder.
I can't figure out why Ford quit their licensing agreement with ZF and allowed Chrysler to have it. Going in with GM on the 10R80/10L80 has been nothing but a blunder.
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When mine was rebuilt they had the newest drum assy. Part number installed, from what I understand it has to do with that bearing now has a retainer to hold it in place
Its been about 3000 on it and all is good
Its been about 3000 on it and all is good
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I agree. If Ford just sucks it up and buys the ZF 8HP75 or licenses it and builds it exactly as ZF builds it, it would be a phenomenal transmission to go with the 5.0