View Poll Results: Ford should provide cost effective change option for 10 speed trannys
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10 SPEED TRANSMISSION FROM HELL
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truck as long as it has the 10R80/10R140. Let's hope this one at least makes it to 150k miles. 🤞
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You hear about new transmissions 10 years ago made with pistons in bare aluminum bores with no liner and it ends up being the top failure mode so much so that the aftermarket adds the liner that the OEM should have had.
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Got rid of the truck
My buddy hired an engineer that came over from Ford and this engineer talked about some of the work they did to assure timely failures in the name of "planned obsolescence" and transmissions are an easy target. I hate that entire movement but it is a thing (thank you corporate greed).
You hear about new transmissions 10 years ago made with pistons in bare aluminum bores with no liner and it ends up being the top failure mode so much so that the aftermarket adds the liner that the OEM should have had.
You hear about new transmissions 10 years ago made with pistons in bare aluminum bores with no liner and it ends up being the top failure mode so much so that the aftermarket adds the liner that the OEM should have had.
I would encourage anybody looking at a F150 to get the extended Ford warranty. Chance are with the 10 speed you will needed it.
As an aside-there are two other F-150 traded ins (that were local trades-looking at the Carfax) that were traded in after mine. One had only 6,000 miles on it and numerous problems were noted on the Carfax.
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They are essentially the same transmission, but GM and Ford tune them differently. I agree, a friend of mine's son just bought a 2021 6.2/10 speed. It has 32k miles on it and it shifts very nicely.
I find the comment about about planned/engineered obsolescence interesting. Just until the last year the manufacturers had a goal to get everyone out of gas/fuel powered vehicles and into EVs. It's becoming clear now that it is not going to happen in the near future, if at all completely.
Ford had better start working doubletime and overtime to improve the quality and longevity of their product. I wont buy a new one right now. I was just talking to my dad about this today, he worked for a fleet intensive Ford dealer for decades. His take is that as far as he can tell, Ford is in big trouble. He's 85 and wants to buy about his 10th "last new" truck. He doesn't trust Ford, or any other manufacturer right now. I recommended him to buy a Nissan Frontier in a lower trim level without a large, feature laden infotainment screen
I find the comment about about planned/engineered obsolescence interesting. Just until the last year the manufacturers had a goal to get everyone out of gas/fuel powered vehicles and into EVs. It's becoming clear now that it is not going to happen in the near future, if at all completely.
Ford had better start working doubletime and overtime to improve the quality and longevity of their product. I wont buy a new one right now. I was just talking to my dad about this today, he worked for a fleet intensive Ford dealer for decades. His take is that as far as he can tell, Ford is in big trouble. He's 85 and wants to buy about his 10th "last new" truck. He doesn't trust Ford, or any other manufacturer right now. I recommended him to buy a Nissan Frontier in a lower trim level without a large, feature laden infotainment screen
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Ford had better start working doubletime and overtime to improve the quality and longevity of their product. I wont buy a new one right now. I was just talking to my dad about this today, he worked for a fleet intensive Ford dealer for decades. His take is that as far as he can tell, Ford is in big trouble. He's 85 and wants to buy about his 10th "last new" truck. He doesn't trust Ford, or any other manufacturer right now. I recommended him to buy a Nissan Frontier in a lower trim level without a large, feature laden infotainment screen
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He had a Tacoma a couple years ago, didn't like sitting with his legs out in front of him and the flat floor was a step for him to get into. The last full size he had was a new F150 about 5-6 years ago. At 85 he's shorter than me now. He used to be 2" taller. Right now he drive's a Toyota Crown sedan, but he wants another truck.
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My buddy hired an engineer that came over from Ford and this engineer talked about some of the work they did to assure timely failures in the name of "planned obsolescence" and transmissions are an easy target. I hate that entire movement but it is a thing (thank you corporate greed).
You hear about new transmissions 10 years ago made with pistons in bare aluminum bores with no liner and it ends up being the top failure mode so much so that the aftermarket adds the liner that the OEM should have had.
You hear about new transmissions 10 years ago made with pistons in bare aluminum bores with no liner and it ends up being the top failure mode so much so that the aftermarket adds the liner that the OEM should have had.
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They are essentially the same transmission, but GM and Ford tune them differently. I agree, a friend of mine's son just bought a 2021 6.2/10 speed. It has 32k miles on it and it shifts very nicely.
I find the comment about about planned/engineered obsolescence interesting. Just until the last year the manufacturers had a goal to get everyone out of gas/fuel powered vehicles and into EVs. It's becoming clear now that it is not going to happen in the near future, if at all completely.
Ford had better start working doubletime and overtime to improve the quality and longevity of their product. I wont buy a new one right now. I was just talking to my dad about this today, he worked for a fleet intensive Ford dealer for decades. His take is that as far as he can tell, Ford is in big trouble. He's 85 and wants to buy about his 10th "last new" truck. He doesn't trust Ford, or any other manufacturer right now. I recommended him to buy a Nissan Frontier in a lower trim level without a large, feature laden infotainment screen
I find the comment about about planned/engineered obsolescence interesting. Just until the last year the manufacturers had a goal to get everyone out of gas/fuel powered vehicles and into EVs. It's becoming clear now that it is not going to happen in the near future, if at all completely.
Ford had better start working doubletime and overtime to improve the quality and longevity of their product. I wont buy a new one right now. I was just talking to my dad about this today, he worked for a fleet intensive Ford dealer for decades. His take is that as far as he can tell, Ford is in big trouble. He's 85 and wants to buy about his 10th "last new" truck. He doesn't trust Ford, or any other manufacturer right now. I recommended him to buy a Nissan Frontier in a lower trim level without a large, feature laden infotainment screen
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Interesting hearing bad reviews on the Toyota and Nissan trucks.
My wife and I actually test drove a Toyota Corolla and sat in a Camry, Crown and Avalon (to replace Momma's Fiesta). Surprisingly, the Corolla had the most room for me since it was a bare bones car. The Avalon; and especially the Crown, had next to 0 front seat room because automotive engineers apparently think every new vehicle needs to be designed like a fighter jet. 
As for my F150, it's still clunking along. I'm waiting for it to throw trouble codes again.
My wife and I actually test drove a Toyota Corolla and sat in a Camry, Crown and Avalon (to replace Momma's
Fiesta). Surprisingly, the Corolla had the most room for me since it was a bare bones car. The Avalon; and especially the Crown, had next to 0 front seat room because automotive engineers apparently think every new vehicle needs to be designed like a fighter jet. As for my F150, it's still clunking along. I'm waiting for it to throw trouble codes again.
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being a family owning a 2023 nissan frontier SV king cab 4x4 i will opening say STAY away . electrical issues with the clarion/china made radios they out right refuse to fix, their jatco made copy of the ZF 9 speed trans suffers from lockup shudder that starts at 40 mph just like toyota had in the taco back around 2010/2011. gas mileage my classic 1970 chevelles LS6 454 gives me better.
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The late model pre-24 Tacos have a few complaints from owners aside from ergonomics
1 the fact that it's made in Mexico with price tag of one built in the US. But consumers keep paying the price so it's on the buyers
2 the 3.5 V6 that is a minivan motor at heart, not everyone is a fan.
3 leaks and bearing problems are not unheard of out of the gate, far more common than its cousin made in Japan, likely due to (1)
4 the auto transmission hunts gears, due to (2)
But its base 2.7 I4 is the most bullet proof 4 cylinder motor made in the year 2023. Go figure.
1 the fact that it's made in Mexico with price tag of one built in the US. But consumers keep paying the price so it's on the buyers
2 the 3.5 V6 that is a minivan motor at heart, not everyone is a fan.
3 leaks and bearing problems are not unheard of out of the gate, far more common than its cousin made in Japan, likely due to (1)
4 the auto transmission hunts gears, due to (2)
But its base 2.7 I4 is the most bullet proof 4 cylinder motor made in the year 2023. Go figure.
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From: sussex county, nj
our nissan is the gen 3 that came out in 2022, the older trucks gen 1 and 2 the owners seem to love,
nissan seems to have a few motor problems the forum has a few that blew number 4 con rod out, radio complaints are up the wall nissan tells the owner theres a reflash coming out yet every month they tell us next month i asked to change the head unit, OMG the bull that came out from no stock up.
they are made in good old Mississippi as is the motor which does have some big ones for power, 310 hp out of 3.8l the trans is made in japan, a copy of the MB 9 spd and stinks , heaven help if you want to change the gear oil, the plastic pan and filters are 1 unit, the bolts are alloy and can't be reused anywhere on it,
nissan seems to have a few motor problems the forum has a few that blew number 4 con rod out, radio complaints are up the wall nissan tells the owner theres a reflash coming out yet every month they tell us next month i asked to change the head unit, OMG the bull that came out from no stock up.
they are made in good old Mississippi as is the motor which does have some big ones for power, 310 hp out of 3.8l the trans is made in japan, a copy of the MB 9 spd and stinks , heaven help if you want to change the gear oil, the plastic pan and filters are 1 unit, the bolts are alloy and can't be reused anywhere on it,
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Hopefully the rebuild of the transmission in your truck gets you back on the road.
This thread has a link to an aftermarket assembly for a 10R80. As I mentioned in the thread, I have doubts.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21308187
Ultimately I did the only thing to guarantee no more clunking 10R80 shifts, I got rid of my truck and bought a Family Truckster.
This thread has a link to an aftermarket assembly for a 10R80. As I mentioned in the thread, I have doubts.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post21308187
Ultimately I did the only thing to guarantee no more clunking 10R80 shifts, I got rid of my truck and bought a Family Truckster.