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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OBS460
They got lazy and didn't even make a 2024 Towing guide. Nothing changed from 2021 to 2022 and they still made one for each year. They probably used the resources that create the towing guide and funneled them to work on Ford Lightning brochures for the 30k that they will build at a loss of $30k+ per truck.
There are some changes, maybe not in numbers but options. The 6.8L is not offered in every configuration from 23 to 24. You can only get in in one DRW option and other limits are in place on the 6.8Ls.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WXboy
So you're saying the gas engine gets 7 MPG? I don't think so.

Won't last as long? So that's why there are countless fleet trucks with gas engines at 400k miles and beyond, while the guys with diesel engines are in the shop constantly by the time they reach 150k?

Prior to 2007 diesel engines typically would last longer, but since Tier IV emissions came in after that we have NOT seen diesels be reliable long term, regardless of brand. That's why there are a TON of them sold or traded off as soon as they reach the end of the 100k mile factory warranty.
I am afraid you are incorrect sir, all construction trucks hauling daily are diesel, in fact all energy trucks that have booms in them, etc are all diesel. Why? Because they weigh 20k, get ran hard and run them 200k miles. You are correct the diesels are getting worked on at 150k but that’s because they are grossing 25k minimum daily around town stop and go. Extreme stress on the motor, trans, axles, and idling 8 hrs a day, oil not getting changed on time, etc.
if you put a gas motor up to it it would last maybe 50k miles…. No argument there, proven fact, if it wasn’t duke energy, etc wouldn’t have all diesel trucks, the gassers they have don’t gross over 12k daily and ocassionally 15k, so half the weight. If you bought a diesel and put up to that task it would last 250k without any issues, it be like guys towing rvs with them. Towing on the highway and around town are two completely different things, much more heat and stress, my f450 hardly ever breaks 220 degrees trans temp and 230 oil on highway, grossing 45k,around town in hills trans has hit 259 degrees once usually around 230 and oil 235-240. Cooling fan screams in summer time. Try that with a 7.3L for 200k it wouldn’t hold up. If it did diesels wouldn’t exist anymore, all energy trucks would be gas, hotshot guys would be using gas, semis would also be gas motors. You guys that haul rvs, weekend warriors won’t understand and never will because y’all don’t haul heavy machines, etc. really no point and talking about it with y’all to be honest.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 08:09 PM
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[QUOTE=Kameron Rice;21112547]I am afraid you are incorrect sir, all construction trucks hauling daily are diesel, in fact all energy trucks that have booms in them, etc are all diesel. Why? Because they weigh 20k, get ran hard and run them 200k miles. You are correct the diesels are getting worked on at 150k but that’s because they are grossing 25k minimum daily around town stop and go. Extreme stress on the motor, trans, axles, and idling 8 hrs a day, oil not getting changed on time, etc.
if you put a gas motor up to it it would last maybe 50k miles…. No argument there, proven fact, if it wasn’t duke energy, etc wouldn’t have all diesel trucks, the gassers they have don’t gross over 12k daily and ocassionally 15k, so half the weight. If you bought a diesel and put up to that task it would last 250k without any issues, it be like guys towing rvs with them. Towing on the highway and around town are two completely different things, much more heat and stress, my f450 hardly ever breaks 220 degrees trans temp and 230 oil on highway, grossing 45k,around town in hills trans has hit 259 degrees once usually around 230 and oil 235-240. Cooling fan screams in summer time. Try that with a 7.3L for 200k it wouldn’t hold up. If it did diesels wouldn’t exist anymore, all energy trucks would be gas, hotshot guys would be using gas, semis would also be gas motors. You guys that haul rvs, weekend warriors won’t understand and never will because y’all don’t haul heavy machines, etc. really no point and talking about it with y’all to be honest.[/QUOTE

That is a bunch of typing. You're an extremely passionate feller.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 08:41 PM
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I do wonder where some of these "facts" come from I see referenced and thrown around on these forums.

Originally Posted by Kameron Rice
if you put a gas motor up to it it would last maybe 50k miles…. No argument there, proven fact
Myself, father, and two brothers own and operate a custom home building business. We develop large subdivisions and the great majority of our outside contractors are showing up in gasoline engine trucks up to class 6 grossing close to their maximums delivering landscape supplies like pavers, bricks, blocks, sod, plantings etc. Our own trucks are by majority gasoline engine trucks up to class 6 hauling our equipment up to 8 ton machines. Outside of the class 8 tridem dumps we contract to haul away the processed aggregate and the lowboy semi we contract to move our 30 ton equipment, just about everyone else is operating a gasoline engine.

Maybe I missed all the engine replacements our trucks and contractors trucks have had every 50k miles? I know a few of our contractors have more than 200k on their triton F550s, I didnt realize they've replaced the engine 3 or more times so far. I must have also been absent the 3 times my father replaced the V10 in his F650 that has around 170k on it now and hauls stone for us all the time? Im just glad I know these facts now.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 09:21 AM
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Curious how many miles are on the 6.8 you bought and how are you liking it so far? tia
 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TJP249
It will have the TorqShift-G 10 speed which is not the same that is in the 7.3 or diesels. It will be at the top end of it’s rated towing capacity. Will certainly do it, but it sounds like it will be towing that weight every day? If so I think I would pass. If it was towing occasionally then no big deal.
The 7.3L has the torque shift G also, its just the 10R140 variant and the 6.8L get the 10R100G.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
Work truck for a crew

6.8L engine

4.30 rear

towing a 16k equipment trailer

is the 6.8 that much weaker than the 7.3? Will it struggle to pull this trailer?

anybody having issues with these 6.8s? It’s not my first choice so I’m curious if I should avoid it if it’ll always be pulling a 16k trailer…..
If this is a one time tow maybe. Otherwise you’re in diesel territory in my opinion and I’m not a diesel fan but that’s a lot of weight even for the 7.3. I would pull that much with
my 7.3 gas but not very often.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 08:34 PM
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Curious how many miles are on the 6.8 you bought and how are you liking it so far? tia
bought another 6.7 power stroke and haven’t looked back. Hauls it with ease.
 
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