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They use the same shocks on the trucks for 4x4 & FX4. it's usually the unloaded tire pressure that make the difference.
You probably are right. That being the case my Wrangler"s load E are much stiffer than his load E'S. Like I said 4-5 times my shocks are not blown out unless they were brand new when I bought the truck
Yep, it's possible. I know the OP is really pushing for it to be the difference between FX4 vs 4x4 shock, but I really don't believe the difference is there.
Didn't mean to sound like I was "pushing" it. I simply asked if anyone actually KNEW if there is a differance is all. I'm not one thats anxious to spend several hundred dollars on shocks just as an experiment! It does seem like there's a lot of price differance in the two packages if the only differance is the thin almost nothing skid plates.
That tells me the shocks MUST be what's making the differance as my friends F-350..heavier duty than my F-250 rides fantastic. Without the FX4 package also rides like a dream.
Is your friend's F350 loaded with weight when you tested it? Your F250 will ride a lot better with a few hundred pounds in the bed to weigh down the springs a bit. Otherwise if all conditions are the same including load, shock condition, tire pressure, etc, it would be very strange to have an F350 that rides significantly better than an F250 of same era and similar set up.
Didn't mean to sound like I was "pushing" it. I simply asked if anyone actually KNEW if there is a differance is all. I'm not one thats anxious to spend several hundred dollars on shocks just as an experiment! It does seem like there's a lot of price differance in the two packages if the only differance is the thin almost nothing skid plates.
You could probably get the stock 4x4 shocks for nearly nothing, or free, if you want to experiment with the OE stuff. A lot of owners consider the factory shocks cheap throw aways, including the shocks that come with FX4. They are just a basic twin tube OE shock. Reality is, they are most likely softer riding than the aftermarket shocks that many of us install but they lack control imo.
The FX4 pkg is actually fairly cheap. It's $495, $400 when I purchased my truck. You get skid plates that were a $100 value as a factory option, which leaves the remainder of value in hill descent control, bedside stickers and cheap OE twin tube shocks. Just to be clear to those who want to debate the overall value of the pkg, I am not saying it's worth it, just pointing out the cost of the pkg and what it includes.
Look up the load/inflation table for your tires and air down. I run 50 psi front 35 psi rear when unloaded. That's still above the load limit for these Toyo 285/75-18s. The ride is great. With 50 psi in the rears it rides like crap.
Look up the load/inflation table for your tires and air down. I run 50 psi front 35 psi rear when unloaded. That's still above the load limit for these Toyo 285/75-18s. The ride is great. With 50 psi in the rears it rides like crap.
a lot of people use super duties to regularly tow or haul things and having 35psi in the tires at any given time would be a huge pain in the ***
always inflating/deflating would drive me nuts but for those that use their trucks more like a car and wanting the most cushion they can get it’s not a bad idea. the only time I deflate is in certain off road conditions where it’s necessary
a lot of people use super duties to regularly tow or haul things and having 35psi in the tires at any given time would be a huge pain in the ***
always inflating/deflating would drive me nuts but for those that use their trucks more like a car and wanting the most cushion they can get it’s not a bad idea. the only time I deflate is in certain off road conditions where it’s necessary
that's why I run 45psi rear, I tow up to 12k for the most part and even then with conventional towing, that pin weight plus the rear axle weight of a gas truck will never exceed 5400 lbs.
50 psi will be fine for many people who tow more weight or run 5th/GN, 6000lbs of rear axle weight limit is a decent amount of headroom. For the F350 SRW with massive payload one would hope the owner understands the capability vs comfort tradeoff.
that's why I run 45psi rear, I tow up to 12k for the most part and even then with conventional towing, that pin weight plus the rear axle weight of a gas truck will never exceed 5400 lbs.
50 psi will be fine for many people who tow more weight or run 5th/GN, 6000lbs of rear axle weight limit is a decent amount of headroom. For the F350 SRW with massive payload one would hope the owner understands the capability vs comfort tradeoff.
Yeah the ride of my truck (350 SRW) with more air in the tires doesn’t bother me. Even if I didn’t tow as much as I do I’d still probably stay higher than the suggested 35. When I was in some soft deep sand in my old truck I dropped down to around 20. But I had 7 miles to drive and didn’t want to get stuck lol.
i think the lowest I’d go on the street is 45-50 (if I drove empty more). But I’m always hitching and unhitching at random times so I usually stay around 65-70 and it doesn’t bother me how it rides empty or with trailer.
if I want a smoother ride I’m taking my wife’s suv.
a lot of people use super duties to regularly tow or haul things and having 35psi in the tires at any given time would be a huge pain in the ***
always inflating/deflating would drive me nuts but for those that use their trucks more like a car and wanting the most cushion they can get it’s not a bad idea. the only time I deflate is in certain off road conditions where it’s necessary
I get it. I'm always adjusting tire pressure. I tow either a 7000 lb travel trailer or a 14000 lb gooseneck boat trailer on a regular basis. But it only takes 5 minutes to change the air pressure in your rear tires. Not a big deal.
My '19 rides like absolute garbage. Pogo stick all the time, and as stiff as a tobacco wagon. I have the standard suspension, not the "camper package" or "heavy service package". My tires are at 50 psi. It's the worst riding truck I've ever been in since I was a kid in the 1980s. I honestly can't believe that in the modern era of $60k trucks Ford actually released something like this to the public.
I don't think shocks would solve it. I actually believe shocks would make it worse. It's way too firm already.
My '19 rides like absolute garbage. Pogo stick all the time, and as stiff as a tobacco wagon. I have the standard suspension, not the "camper package" or "heavy service package". My tires are at 50 psi. It's the worst riding truck I've ever been in since I was a kid in the 1980s. I honestly can't believe that in the modern era of $60k trucks Ford actually released something like this to the public.
I don't think shocks would solve it. I actually believe shocks would make it worse. It's way too firm already.
So weird my 17 F250 rides excellent. My old 2019 with HD front springs and rear sulastic shackles and Fox 2.0 rode almost as good.
I put RC 1.5” front springs on the 17 though; but it has 22” wheels on it and RS7MT shocks on it.
I am a big proponent of the base F250 rear springs. I use them to tow and haul at work too.
My '19 rides like absolute garbage. Pogo stick all the time, and as stiff as a tobacco wagon. I have the standard suspension, not the "camper package" or "heavy service package". My tires are at 50 psi. It's the worst riding truck I've ever been in since I was a kid in the 1980s. I honestly can't believe that in the modern era of $60k trucks Ford actually released something like this to the public.
I don't think shocks would solve it. I actually believe shocks would make it worse. It's way too firm already.
I bought my 19 FX4 F250 used in July. I’ve thought since I bought it it was fairly rough. Deff more rough than my F150 was. I brought it up in a couple threads and people just said I was expecting a car like F150 ride in this truck. I’m getting more used to it.
I feel like in my case it’s the springs. I don’t think it’s too firm. I think it’s more the rebound action of the rear springs when going over bumps. Because as soon as I get 400-500 lb in the bed it rides so much better which is just enough weight to slow down the bouncy rebound of the rear springs.
not sure a new shock would damper the rate of that rebound or not. I only drove one other used truck before buying this one and don’t remember er how it rode.
thought about the solastic shackles but it’s a good expense to eat.
also thought about one of those carry water bags you can get. You can fill them with like 75 gallons of water which would add around 500 lb. And just let it ride around in the bed of the truck.
Yep, it's possible. I know the OP is really pushing for it to be the difference between FX4 vs 4x4 shock, but I really don't believe the difference is there.
Has anyone looked at the part numbers of the FX4 shocks and the 4x4 shocks? This should at least be an indicator whether they are the same or not.
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