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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 03:04 PM
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stuck drums

recently rebuilt rear drums and I adjusted the pads a bit too tight on the DS rear.
tried loosening the star wheel, but think I accidentally disengaged the spring mechanism.
Took apart the opposide side to verify direction of wheel adjustment.
I think I have the wheel turned all the way to shorten the adjuster, and can feel that adjuster wobbling so I know the pads should be fully off tension.
still can't remove the drum easily. tried lightly tapping all around the back side w/ a 1/2" socket extension and a sledge, trying to walk the drum off.
is my next bet getting a puller? I don't see any holes in the face of the drum that would allow me to drive a bolt to push it off the hub.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 03:16 PM
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If you haven't already try releasing any pressure or vacuum at the wheel cylinder by opening the bleeder.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 03:26 PM
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I’ll give you the same advice I’ve given co workers since 2002 when they couldn’t get a drum off. Hit it with your purse!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cb_13
I’ll give you the same advice I’ve given co workers since 2002 when they couldn’t get a drum off. Hit it with your purse!
I know it's not rusted to the hub as it's a new rebuild. tried tapping it w/ a sledge but not moving at all

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If you haven't already try releasing any pressure or vacuum at the wheel cylinder by opening the bleeder.
great idea. I'll try this next.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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ok. released bleeder w/o improvement.
will rent a puller next I guess.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by egchewy
ok. released bleeder w/o improvement.
will rent a puller next I guess.
If the bleeder is open with a hose attached and fed into a container, the shoes should release by rocking the drum. The emergency brake hardware is not stuck, correct?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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E brake is off.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 04:58 PM
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E brake is off. I can turn the drum/axle by hand
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by egchewy
E brake is off. I can turn the drum/axle by hand
If the drum is free then it has to be holding up on the drum itself. Is it a new drum or the old ones ?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by redroad
If the drum is free then it has to be holding up on the drum itself. Is it a new drum or the old ones ?
brand new drum and shoes
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by egchewy
brand new drum and shoes
Is there a screw holding the drum to the axle ?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 07:06 PM
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these seem to usually be inboard drums vs outboard drums. Does this ring a bell? do we need to remove the wheel bearing retention mechanism by chance?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 07:24 PM
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Drum should just slide off, like the other side. Still have too much friction from the shoes for some reason. Cracked the bleeder already and have the adjuster of the bottom with the star wheel fully retracted. New drums and shoes, so no rust to consider. Anti seize placed on face of hub during assembly. E brake off.
going to rent a puller next
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 07:45 PM
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I had an issue once, truck was on a lift at a buddy's shop, drum would not come off. Buddy told me to hit it with a hammer, I did, made a lot of noise, but it stayed tight.

I could see that the hub hole where it's beveled out was a tight fit on the hub. Just a little surface rust and it was trying to dig in to the hub.

He came over, took the hammer, hit it twice, hard, drum was free. I had never had one do that before. I got the other side off the same way he did. Something about vibrations.

If pulled, the designed formed bevel at the hub will try to tighten it's grip on the hub.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 07:57 PM
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Be aware that those pullers can break the drum too. I’d smack the s*** out of it with a 5lb sledge first and then see where you are.
 
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