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From another group I belong to, doesn't look good for Ford or the EV market.
"Have a friend who recently purchased a Ford F150 Lightning. Had it 2 days and the battery died and would not hold a charge. Had it towed to the dealership and was told it would be months before they would have parts to do the repair. So now, he's retained counsel because neither the dealership or company are taking responsibility but yet they have no problem taking payment on a vehicle he can't use."
I saw a headline about the Tesla owner receiving a stern warning from the Forestry department about their actions on the land. Although, I didn't click on it to see if there was any truth or merit to it.
From another group I belong to, doesn't look good for Ford or the EV market.
"Have a friend who recently purchased a Ford F150 Lightning. Had it 2 days and the battery died and would not hold a charge. Had it towed to the dealership and was told it would be months before they would have parts to do the repair. So now, he's retained counsel because neither the dealership or company are taking responsibility but yet they have no problem taking payment on a vehicle he can't use."
Not looking good?
They've sold over 33,000 Lightnings to date. A note about a friend of some rando on another forum isn't exactly dispositive of an entire vehicle line. If you go to any current-gen vehicle forum, you'll find some major failures. There have been some battery issues, but most seem pretty happy with them. Mine was built in May, 2022 and hasn't had any significant issues.
I probably shouldn't go against the company line, but I'm a visual guy who doesn't like clicking through slideshow "articles" like that. No disrespect to Mr. Foote, but this is all clickbait.
I'm a visual guy, so here's the best chart I could find with a few minutes of web searching. I think Cybertruck is a technological marvel, but it's not a great value against the Lightning or Rivian. Rivian has more features and Lightning has more capability because of its larger size. I'd prefer the Cybertruck despite the awful-looking exterior because the smaller size would fit better in the garage, but not at those prices. I think Ford may have a problem if they can do something about that look while lowering the price, but that's probably a couple of years off.
For now, I'm glad to be driving a blue Lightning instead of a sci-fi movie prop. The future can look like the future, I don't need that now.
They've sold over 33,000 Lightnings to date. A note about a friend of some rando on another forum isn't exactly dispositive of an entire vehicle line. If you go to any current-gen vehicle forum, you'll find some major failures. There have been some battery issues, but most seem pretty happy with them. Mine was built in May, 2022 and hasn't had any significant issues.
I have no doubt that any vehicle can have issues but two day old and months for parts?
I just received my 22E02 recall letter but my trucks not 2 days old and it has not disabled my vehicle. It may be a rare case but it should never happen, they need to give him a loner car or something. To leave him with no vehicle is just BS. ( not sure I'll have mine done, it runs fine and it was shipped w/o the missing? sensor)
I have no doubt that any vehicle can have issues but two day old and months for parts?
I just received my 22E02 recall letter but my trucks not 2 days old and it has not disabled my vehicle. It may be a rare case but it should never happen, they need to give him a loner car or something. To leave him with no vehicle is just BS. ( not sure I'll have mine done, it runs fine and it was shipped w/o the missing? sensor)
I agree with that, but we don't know enough about this specific failure, let alone what the usual experience is. In general, dealerships service departments don't have many trained techs that can do HV battery work, and that inexperience can cause all kinds of delays and problems. I've never been told "no" for a loaner, and I got to drive a brand-new Powerboost F150 when my truck went in the shop for a recall.
Ford sells almost 2 million vehicles in the U.S. every year, and you can find horror stories in every section of this forum. That doesn't mean any of them are having design issues, and most of those bad experiences end up being incompetent dealerships. I think most dealers are pretty good, but the ones who aren't really stand out on the internet.
I have no doubt that any vehicle can have issues but two day old and months for parts?
I just received my 22E02 recall letter but my trucks not 2 days old and it has not disabled my vehicle. It may be a rare case but it should never happen, they need to give him a loner car or something. To leave him with no vehicle is just BS. ( not sure I'll have mine done, it runs fine and it was shipped w/o the missing? sensor)
There have been more than a few times we had to jump start a new vehicle to get it off the transport truck from the factory. Put them on the diagnostic machine for check engine or other warning lights due to faulty parts installed at the factory. Plastic still on the seats and floors.
The way it was explained to me by one of my Ford instructors is it's cheaper to ship it broken and screw the dealer tech with warranty repair time than stopping the line to repair it. Then there have been times we've had brand new cars towed in with a locked up engine and 350 miles on the odo. Sh__ happens.
I agree with that, but we don't know enough about this specific failure, let alone what the usual experience is. In general, dealerships service departments don't have many trained techs that can do HV battery work, and that inexperience can cause all kinds of delays and problems. I've never been told "no" for a loaner, and I got to drive a brand-new Powerboost F150 when my truck went in the shop for a recall.
Ford sells almost 2 million vehicles in the U.S. every year, and you can find horror stories in every section of this forum. That doesn't mean any of them are having design issues, and most of those bad experiences end up being incompetent dealerships. I think most dealers are pretty good, but the ones who aren't really stand out on the internet.
Just too many horror stories on the new EV's fr me with fires and the lack of miles between charges. I live 80 miles from the nearest town of any size, town here is 1100? and we just got a Dollar store a couple years ago, so that alone makes it a no go here. Maybe in an urban environment but living in the out back, no. I did put solar on my roof to see how that would work out, international company contracted in June and went on line in November so as of now I don't have a full month. Lost of issues but I think it's the rural electric coop that is just not familiar with the whole solar thing, 3 meters and my first bill the added the production to my use. We did get that straightened out.
Just too many horror stories on the new EV's fr me with fires and the lack of miles between charges. I live 80 miles from the nearest town of any size, town here is 1100? and we just got a Dollar store a couple years ago, so that alone makes it a no go here. Maybe in an urban environment but living in the out back, no. I did put solar on my roof to see how that would work out, international company contracted in June and went on line in November so as of now I don't have a full month. Lost of issues but I think it's the rural electric coop that is just not familiar with the whole solar thing, 3 meters and my first bill the added the production to my use. We did get that straightened out.
Unfortuantely, owning EVs is harder in rural areas than anywhere else. Service departments can’t get much experience with them until there’s critical mass of owners, and that will happen first in the busier metro areas. I live 30 miles north of the Minneapolis metro and I have no plans on going to my local dealer for anything related to the HV system. ~95% of the truck is identical to the mainstream F150, but that high voltage 5% takes a very different skillset.
I have two meters on the side of my house because of my off-peak charging circuit. One measures power going into the entire house, and the other is consumption from the charger, so it’s metered twice. I’d imagine your solar setup is similar; if they don’t know that one is to be subtracted from the other, you’d get a huge bill. ⚡️
I've read that Ford looses ~$30k on every Lighting they sell? If that's true... It doesn't look good. And with the pulling back production targets for next year, I'm not sure how one can spin it any other way.
I guess such nightmare stories will be possible until or unless the working acceptable commercial charging stations are brought on-line and that they accurately make their status known for your on-board apps locating them.
I guess such nightmare stories will be possible until or unless the working acceptable commercial charging stations are brought on-line and that they accurately make their status known for your on-board apps locating them.
We did get that straightened out. 
