Now that its cooled down i have had some cold start issues. I went looking and long story short it came down to gp relay. I purchased this "stancor" relay on Amazon. It came in a very plain box with no stancor sticker on it for pn. I should have returned it but I was in a hurry. Long story short be careful with parts buying..the money i saved won't go far in buying a quality part from a quality known seller( diesel orings) . I know diesel orings will be awesome to deal with as they always are.

 

Amazon seems to have expanded too much and hard to trust what you might get anymore.

I use the western plow relays (Trombetta)

 

Last week I was helping a friend of mine source the GPR and I sent him the link to Diesel Orings. He ordered one and I was talking to him about installing and he told me how he got it cheaper on Amazon. I asked if was labeled correctly and he mentioned the plain box without labeling. I mentioned sending it back but he is going to run it. We will see how it goes.

 

I agree totally, I pretty much stay away from Amazon when I need genuine auto parts. I do order a lot of stuff through Rock Auto. Brakes, window switches, stuff like that. Anything that the trucks need to run I order from the known vendors. I did order a 3rd brake light gasket from Amazon a few weeks ago seemed ok. although it did advise to run a bead of silicone around the light. Which I did. At least you didn't find out the hard way you got counterfeit glow plugs and it was just a relay. I also run the Trombetta relay (from CNC Fab), seems to work fine.

 

Don't buy your parts from Amazon. Here's why:

Amazon now hosts many Chinese manufacturers who have abandoned AliBaba.com following a Chinese government's crackdown on it's founder Jack MA. Ma started the Ant Group which owns Alibaba. After he criticized Chinese regulators who nearly had him jailed last year, many Chinese businesses had to scramble for access to American markets following Chinese regulator interference with how Alibaba did business.. See: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/12/busin...20philanthropy.

Personally, I seldom shop Amazon because of their tactics of promoting vendors who pay Amazon the highest percentage of sales price, and do so with little or no regard to quality or accuracy of product descriptions. Chinese business are happy to pay more because their costs are lower. Since most business from western countries don't have near slave labor, their costs are higher and can't afford to compete with cheap Chinese knockoff products. Worse yet, if manufacturers or their distributors sell their wares at a lower price elsewhere, Amazon punishes them by listing their product deep down on the search results. See: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news...monopoly-power

I buy products made in most any country that adheres to US intellectual property rights. Many US manufacturers still use Chinese manufacturers, but under quality control standards that the manufacturer monitors. But these companies too are slowly leaving China, Apple for example, due to Chinese regulatory matters. Cheap replica parts requiring expensive labor to install doesn't make sense to me.

 

when buying auto parts, i try for made in USA first.

if those are not available i look for made in mexico.

 

Honestly I was in a hurry and it looked like a stancor. It looks right but I should have dove in more when the box was plain. I went with diesel orings as I know he is a quality vendor. Just trying to save someone from making my mistake

 

I minimize my business with Amazon. Once I heard about their refusal to treat their employees with dignity and respect, I began doing everything that I can to avoid supporting their business. I also heard from a friend who worked at an Amazon warehouse that it is indeed a miserable place to work.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...y-need-a-union

https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...les-2021-3?amp

I don’t want a business that treats its employees this way to continue to exist.