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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:10 AM
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23 f250 lariat club 7.3. 2k miles. first the driver side mirror was replaced for grinding noise. they tried fixing loose mirror glass on the passenger side. first fix was to replace the motor, that was a no go. now waiting on a part that is on national backorder. center dash, national backorder. now it threw a check engine light. O2 sensor, next appt is 3 weeks out. at that point they will actually diagnose the problem and hopefully not on national back order. At ford quality is no longer job 1
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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Hasn't been in years.....
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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Sorry to hear. It does seem that manufacturers focus exclusively on rolling out expensive new "features", and quality/dependability have taken a big hit.

I hope you get everything fixed up soon.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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As a Ford marketing slogan "Quality is Job 1" has been around for 40 years. As an operating practice, quality has never been job 1 at Ford. Profit and stock price are job 1. Those are what the executives are measured on, and therefore, what is most important. Sure, Ford has had quality circles and continuous improvement campaigns, among other things, but these are just window dressing. I've been involved in similar activities at my company, both in manufacturing and engineering. The recommendations that come out of these from employees go unfunded as the ROI extends out more than the one- or two-year vision of most executives.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wizardfitz
23 f250 lariat club 7.3. 2k miles. first the driver side mirror was replaced for grinding noise. they tried fixing loose mirror glass on the passenger side. first fix was to replace the motor, that was a no go. now waiting on a part that is on national backorder. center dash, national backorder. now it threw a check engine light. O2 sensor, next appt is 3 weeks out. at that point they will actually diagnose the problem and hopefully not on national back order. At ford quality is no longer job 1
Try a different dealership service department.
When my truck had a TCM issue, all in town dealers were 8-10 weeks out, but a dealer a short way out of town was able to get on it in a week, and they are now my go to for any dealer work.
Also, contact the forum Ford rep and get them to contact customer service for you and get a case opened.
Contact @Ford Motor Company on here.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Try a different dealership service department.
When my truck had a TCM issue, all in town dealers were 8-10 weeks out, but a dealer a short way out of town was able to get on it in a week, and they are now my go to for any dealer work.
Also, contact the forum Ford rep and get them to contact customer service for you and get a case opened.
Contact @Ford Motor Company on here.
that may be an option, there is one about 45 min away.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 09:48 AM
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I think it is luck of the draw. 33K on my '21 F350 7.3 and it has been perfect. Zero issues.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:39 PM
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I think it is luck of the draw. 33K on my '21 F350 7.3 and it has been perfect. Zero issues.
I'd say I've also had minimal issues with my '21, except for the slew of recalls FoMoCo keeps sending me in the mail are a constant reminder of how "well sorted" the truck was when it left the factory.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
As a Ford marketing slogan "Quality is Job 1" has been around for 40 years. As an operating practice, quality has never been job 1 at Ford. Profit and stock price are job 1. Those are what the executives are measured on, and therefore, what is most important. Sure, Ford has had quality circles and continuous improvement campaigns, among other things, but these are just window dressing. I've been involved in similar activities at my company, both in manufacturing and engineering. The recommendations that come out of these from employees go unfunded as the ROI extends out more than the one- or two-year vision of most executives.
The stock holders are concerned about the poor quality because Ford left ~ $3 billion of lost profits on the table due to recalls and warranty repairs due to poor quality hence the reason they hired Josh Halliburton Director of Quality to fix this problem. The problem is Jim Farley then goes on record stating it will take ~ 2 years for Ford to address all their quality problems. If I was Bill Ford I would had release papers from HR in hand within the hour and would had him packing his bags by COB and announcing his replacement the next morning.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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Well there's build quality and then there's design quality. On Super Duty I have seen problems with both. It's not always the line workers to blame. Sometimes it's just a **** poor design on Ford's part.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Well there's build quality and then there's design quality. On Super Duty I have seen problems with both. It's not always the line workers to blame. Sometimes it's just a **** poor design on Ford's part.
I agree there's poor design quality issues as well. Problem is Farley released many of the ICE/division engineers in order to hire more electrical engineers to support the EV division. Quality starts from the top and with Farley I have absolutely zero confidence with him.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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Luck of the draw, my 2023 with close to 15,000 miles is on point. Minus the rear recall, but that’s a part manufacturing issue.
 
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