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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 07:53 PM
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Starters?

I have 2 '96 trucks. One with 80k miles the other with 300k. I was noticing how much faster the high mileage truck turns over. Both trucks have a stock reman starter, new batteries, high miler had cables replaced at some point. Thinking the engine just has less compression making it easier to spin over.
Anyway it's got me thinking of getting a different starter for the new truck to spin it faster. Obviously the Denso is the way to go but I can't locate one in canada and shipping is alot. The XDP is in canada. Are they good or should I just pony up for the Denso?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 08:49 PM
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I have the XDP black gear reduction starter and like it a lot. Never had a Denso to compare it to though.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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If the 80K truck still has the original starter on it, you will be surprised how fast a new OEM starter will spin it over. They say a 2 bolt starter from a Superduty is an upgrade for these trucks. I can't say for sure, as I'm still running the OEM style of starter.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by farmert
If the 80K truck still has the original starter on it, you will be surprised how fast a new OEM starter will spin it over. They say a 2 bolt starter from a Superduty is an upgrade for these trucks. I can't say for sure, as I'm still running the OEM style of starter.
Yeah I put an OEM reman on it recently. Reman probably not as good as new?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 11:09 AM
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Where in Canada land are you located?

Some pals of mine in BC have a Washington PO Box for the reason of shipping ease.

I have an OE Denso on the 96. Works great plus runs about $40 to rebuild if needed, picked up at Thoroughbred Diesel. I too hear the late 7.3 offset unit works well. Mine had the old, long Mitsu style.

Pretty sure someone has a Mean Green on this board.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 12:21 PM
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I am running the 2 bolt offset SD starter. Works fine and cranks faster than the stock one did.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Where in Canada land are you located?

Some pals of mine in BC have a Washington PO Box for the reason of shipping ease.

I have an OE Denso on the 96. Works great plus runs about $40 to rebuild if needed, picked up at Thoroughbred Diesel. I too hear the late 7.3 offset unit works well. Mine had the old, long Mitsu style.

Pretty sure someone has a Mean Green on this board.
Saskatchewan.
Got a SD starter. Gonna install and check resistance on cables and replace if needed.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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Ah okay, fairly remote!

Keep us posted on the starter. Custombatterycables.com has connectors and such you may need as well as consider going to 'military' style terminals.
 
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Ah okay, fairly remote!

Keep us posted on the starter. Custombatterycables.com has connectors and such you may need as well as consider going to 'military' style terminals.
I installed the 'military' style cables from custombatterycables.com. The cables all seemed to be just a little bit too long, and especially the one joining the two batteries that runs along the top of the radiator core support. The cables are so stiff that it is a little bit of a challenge to find something to do with the little bit of extra length. I will say that it is all installed now and works as you would expect.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 06:28 PM
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What's an acceptable voltage drop at the starter terminal when checked while cranking with good batteries?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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put meter on battery terminal and on starter terminal and check for volts when cranking. There should be 0 volts. If there is volts, then wire or a connection is making resistance

if measuring volts at the starter, you have to measure the batteries as well. then see your loss after which should not be much

do the cleaning, its almost free to do and can make a huge difference in cranking.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ou-cranky.html
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
put meter on battery terminal and on starter terminal and check for volts when cranking. There should be 0 volts. If there is volts, then wire or a connection is making resistance

if measuring volts at the starter, you have to measure the batteries as well. then see your loss after which should not be much

do the cleaning, its almost free to do and can make a huge difference in cranking.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ou-cranky.html
Yup I seen your post. I plan on doing that as well. Thanks for your help!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
put meter on battery terminal and on starter terminal and check for volts when cranking. There should be 0 volts. If there is volts, then wire or a connection is making resistance

if measuring volts at the starter, you have to measure the batteries as well. then see your loss after which should not be much

do the cleaning, its almost free to do and can make a huge difference in cranking.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ou-cranky.html
Positive terminal on batteryt to starter terminal while cranking shows 0.2 volts.
Negative battery terminal to starter case while cranking shows 0.15 volts

Acceptable?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 08:19 AM
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Was that before or after cleaning?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
Was that before or after cleaning?
Before. Wanted to see what it was at prior to cleaning.
 
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