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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 07:49 AM
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Are you going by the window sticker? I think you have dual alternators. My window sticker says "397A alternator" but I have two alternators. I checked the part numbers; the one on the left is 240A, the right one is 157A.
Admittedly, I did only go by the window sticker since in my previous truck the window sticker indicated dual alternators so I made an assumption... and we all know what that means LOL. My bad and I stand corrected. I did in fact go out and confirm 2 alternators are present.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 08:07 AM
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I had planned to install a winch on mine, but discovered that they require dual alternators (from what I've seen thus far).

I wonder how much it will run to install the second alternator, or whether it's even viable? If I did install the second one (to support a winch), does anyone know if the supplemental heater option is plug-and-play (for curiosity sake)?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeUser
I wonder how much it will run to install the second alternator, or whether it's even viable? If I did install the second one (to support a winch), does anyone know if the supplemental heater option is plug-and-play (for curiosity sake)?
I think retro fitting is possible but not a cheap endeavor.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeUser
I had planned to install a winch on mine, but discovered that they require dual alternators (from what I've seen thus far).

I wonder how much it will run to install the second alternator, or whether it's even viable? If I did install the second one (to support a winch), does anyone know if the supplemental heater option is plug-and-play (for curiosity sake)?
Ford might require the dual alternators as a prerequisite for the winch but IMO, it's not really necessary. If you want to install a winch, dual AGM batteries might be a worthwhile endeavor/investment.

The supplemental heater is not worthwhile, even if it is possible to install after build. It's buried inside the dash. I know I wouldn't want my dash tore apart for a little warm air.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeUser
I had planned to install a winch on mine, but discovered that they require dual alternators (from what I've seen thus far).

I wonder how much it will run to install the second alternator, or whether it's even viable? If I did install the second one (to support a winch), does anyone know if the supplemental heater option is plug-and-play (for curiosity sake)?
Like 4WD said, I don't think dual alternators are required for a winch. I've had many trucks, dating back to mid 70's, with a winch and never had dual alternators. I think some of those trucks had about 60A alternators. In any case, a winch is probably going to pull more amps than even a big alternator supplies; the key is to have enough battery power and know when to stop pulling and let things rest. Mile Marker used to make a hydraulic winch that ran off the power steering pump; not sure it was that great. I still have a new one, in the box; never got motivated to research installing it on a new truck. At my age, I prefer not to get stuck.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by scottz99
Like 4WD said, I don't think dual alternators are required for a winch. I've had many trucks, dating back to mid 70's, with a winch and never had dual alternators. I think some of those trucks had about 60A alternators. In any case, a winch is probably going to pull more amps than even a big alternator supplies; the key is to have enough battery power and know when to stop pulling and let things rest.
I've also had winches on past vehicles, that didn't require larger output alternators, but didn't know if there was something unique in the way Ford handles current in these F-250 diesels. Just erring on the side of caution, and not intending to overtax the existing charging system.

After looking at what's involved with adding the second alternator, I think I'm gonna take a hard pass on that option (too dang expensive, and way too much work).

Thanks for the feedback (both yourself and 4WD), much appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2023 | 12:25 PM
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It depends on how you intend to use the winch. If you need to use the full weight rating of the winch (say all 12k pounds), you are going to need roughly 470 amps for a WARN 12k pound winch, give or take. Many folks driving around with their factory winch think it will pull what it is rated for but that is not necessarily the case. If you rig it up properly and use various ****** blocks, you can help it out but if you just use the line and small gauge wiring hoping for a full pull, it's not going to happen. It will overheat way before it gets to a full pull. For best results, run as many amps as you can and wire your winch with 2/0, 3/0, or 4/0 wire for best results. They all get hot (some sooner than others) so keep an eye on them especially if you run synthetic line. I have seen a few folks melt their line to the drum because they did not pay attention and the mounting of the Ford winch makes it difficult to gauge what is going on unless you crawl under there and keep an eye on it.
 
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