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Hey guys,
I'm buying a used factory turbo kit off of a '94 7.3 IDI. It's located 4.5 hours from me and I have to pull all the turbo parts. My question is do I need any specialty tools to pull any of the parts off?
Is the engine in a truck? Access to some nuts and bolts is tight when installed on the vehicle. Getting the two parts of the up-pipe to separate can be extremely difficult (then hard to get them to reseal on install). Removing them without separating may not be possible while installed in a vehicle, I can't quite remember... A slidehammer will help if you do have to separate them.
If the engine is out sitting on a pallet or something, that would be much easier, as long as its not sitting on the exhaust.
It would be extremely helpful to have a copy of the ATS 093 kit install instructions with you. You could follow along in reverse, but more importantly, it has a parts list you can check off to make sure you get all the parts. A few things like the downpipe, and oil feed will be different between the factory and aftermarket kit. Remember to snag the driver side valve cover with CDR valve and the tubing that runs along to the air filter. I don't know if they relocated the glow plug relay from the factory, or if that was an add-on mod ... but grab the bracket to mount it if its not in same spot as yours (back of the engine).
Penetrating lube of your favorite variety, a good wrench and socket set, with extensions and a breaker bar should be about what you need.
Is the engine in a truck? Access to some nuts and bolts is tight when installed on the vehicle. Getting the two parts of the up-pipe to separate can be extremely difficult (then hard to get them to reseal on install). Removing them without separating may not be possible while installed in a vehicle, I can't quite remember... A slidehammer will help if you do have to separate them.
If the engine is out sitting on a pallet or something, that would be much easier, as long as its not sitting on the exhaust.
It would be extremely helpful to have a copy of the ATS 093 kit install instructions with you. You could follow along in reverse, but more importantly, it has a parts list you can check off to make sure you get all the parts. A few things like the downpipe, and oil feed will be different between the factory and aftermarket kit. Remember to snag the driver side valve cover with CDR valve and the tubing that runs along to the air filter. I don't know if they relocated the glow plug relay from the factory, or if that was an add-on mod ... but grab the bracket to mount it if its not in same spot as yours (back of the engine).
Penetrating lube of your favorite variety, a good wrench and socket set, with extensions and a breaker bar should be about what you need.
It is unfortunately inside the truck. I got the ats instructions, this job sounds like it will be a pain. Hopefully I bring every tool I need. But for $250, I think I'm still getting a good deal.
$250 is a good deal, the 9 hour round trip and however long it takes to remove may kill that... but still may be worth it, especially if there are some other things in the area to make the trip worth it. A set of torches would help if there are any stuck bolts you need to coerce. Sawzall or grinder may also help if you don't have torches. If you can take out the body mounts on the passenger side and jack it up that may help. I think that's what I did when I pulled the turbo out of my 88 to put in my 93. I definitely jacked the f@$k out of that side of the body and wrecked the running board in the process (didn't care, poor thing is very crusty, why I stopped driving it) I didn't want to have to separate the up-pipe if possible. I was able to get it out, and since I had the transmission out of my 93, was able to wiggle it in without any problems.
Actually the only crusty bolts will be the exhaust ones, everything up top should be out. Don't forget to snag to crossover pipe as well.
Safety glasses while working under the truck are highly recommended to keep crap from getting into your eyes. If the guy has a compressor, that may help zip off the exhaust stuff pretty quickly. Honestly, I didn't have any trouble on either truck removing the nuts for the exhaust stuff. Surprised the hell out of me, I've had to fight some other rusty crap on both trucks, but those came out easy. Even getting the studs out of the manifold went well, and they are supposed to be some deformed thread BS to keep them from wiggling loose.
Bring a buddy, and some drinks of choice if you can, always nice to have an extra set of hands. Some boxes to put the pieces in, and an egg carton can be real helpful to sort out the nuts and bolts into the different egg spots, and lets you label what they each are.
I got the turbo pulled it was actually a spectacularly easy. The guy already had the transmission out of the truck, so there was a lot of room. He also use a ratchet strap and leaned the engine forward so I'd have even more space. All the parts are good, but the turbo I think needs replaced. There was a lot of oil in the intake. I also snagged all the accessories and brackets for the serpentine belt. I don't mind the v belt, but I've rebuilt my AC system three times now and the old style compressor has failed each time (New compressor and other parts each time), so I'd much rather the serpentine style compressor. All the brackets only cost 100 bucks and came with the accessories.
Next step will be saving for CDD turbo, and getting a pyro and boost gauge.
Also, it was not a stock turbo motor it was a 92 f350. I don't believe they came turbo till 93. So it was the aftermarket ats kit, the down pipe is not crushed. I do need to figure out how it mounts, there is no v band or anything on it. Would the aftermarket be the 088, or is it still an 093? There is no identity tag.
ATS made several turbos that will fit the IDI. I believe the first was the ATS 085, for the first 6.9L IDI's that came out in 1985. They then updated it to the 088 in 1988. Both of those I believe had no wastgate. The ATS 093 added a wastegate and a few other changes. Ford decided to use the 093 design for the factory turbo engines in 93 and 94 before the powerstroke came out. Since ATS used a 3" downpipe, you have to beat back the cab where the downpipe runs, Ford decided not to modify the cab, so redesigned the downpipe to the smaller crushed design. The aftermarket kits say ATS on the filter cover, the factory turbos say Ford. I believe there is a difference in the oil feed setup, but can't remember the details.
On the ATS 093 the downpipe just slides up into the exhaust housing. There is a band that clamps around the downpipe with a tab that goes under one of the transmission bolts. It should be noted in the parts diagram you have.
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