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I installed mine in April 2023. I had it for two months prior to that. I was waiting for others parts to arrive first. I wanted to go in once and do the work, not 50 times.
I watched Colts Way video. He did his about seven. months ago. He struggled a bit. He is a funny guy. I thought my process through before I jumped in and did mine.
Quit as in how? Some people like stock trucks on this forum and some like deleted ones. You have tree huggers here and some not so much. Do a search of the forum to see if your question/questions have been asked before. I think that is where people fail a lot. Do your research first. This place can hit pretty hard on certain topics.
quit as in the forums are dead compared to a few years ago back when there were 100+ post a day on psa, psn or the org.
So looking on KC Turbo's website, I see they sell a 10 blade turbine wheel for the 6.0 and some Duramax engines. I see that the same 10 blade turbine wheel, I'll assume, is used in their Whistler Stage 1 turbo. Is that the 10 blade turbine you're running?
As to the stock compressor wheel size for our year 6.7s, is it 63mm? Since we're on the subject, can a stock truck like mine run what you do with no ill effect with the stock fueling?
I believe the stock compressor is 61.5mm. Decided myself not to change wheel sizes just the wheels themselves so spool up would remain the same. A stock truck will have zero issues running this combination. The stock turbo felt pent up when pushing it hard. It's tough to describe but when you compare the stock wheels vs. aftermarket it's easy to understand why.
There are a couple options out there for a turbine wheel. I run a StainlessDiesel 10 blade. It's quiet at idle, doesn't sound like a 6.0 jet engine. It has a pretty loud whistle starting around 1200rpm and the exhaust brake has a whistle to it.
There are mixed opinions about if intercooler upgrades help much at all with a stock turbo. I always go back to the 7.3 powerstroke on this subject. There are 100s of people that bought a Banks or Hypermax IC expecting results paired with the stock turbo that were disappointed when nothing changed. The turbo is the limiting factor, if it is pushing hot air and not happy no amount of intercooler will overcome that. That being said it can compliment a happy turbocharger and bring intake air temps down a couple degrees. Even then, for the cost there is minimal gain.
Not to pick on parts here but the same can be said with intake piping. Say a Pusher intake, what is it going to add for performance??? It's just a piece of round piece of pipe, it may lower over PSI because it has more volume to fill. It's not going to magically make more air go into the engine. What it is IMO is a reliability part. When your pushing hard and hitting 40psi+ you start worrying about the plastic intake holding up to those pressures. Similar to the stock intercooler pipe that everyone replaces. Just my opinion on the matter. If you want more, cooler air the turbocharger is the place to start.
i think it all started when the minitruck guys with rubberband tires and dancing beds couldnt buy a new minitrucks. I want stockish simply because over the past 10+yrs of diesel ownership ive noticed folks spening 2x the value of a truck endlessly modding them then selling them when they are unusable as a truck. Id love a 11sec 4door truck but in reality i have a family, need transportation and to pull a heavy camper. So stock seems to be the ticket for usable amd reliability. I never would considered deleting my truck except for constant regens. It was a hassle to use my laptop.to force a regen once a month. Or drive 20-40 miles out of my way to get it to preform a regen on the highway.
I don't think a true tree hugger would drive a diesel truck anyway... more like a Prius or a Tesla, or a gasser grocery getter. I bought my diesel because I wanted to and not because I needed it. Yeah, I daily drive a 6.7. I've heard plenty here from guys who said it's crazy to daily drive a diesel truck or to buy a gasser for daily driving. I embrace the fact that's it's not practical to drive my truck everyday for a daily driver and that said, that's why some delete because their daily driving routine won't keep the emissions functioning because of all the short drives, idle time or all stop and go.
It's a major PITA to drive for regen completion. Like I said, sometimes I drive it at least a hundred miles to get her to go active because the expressway I drive climbs up in altitude, so she gets nice and toasty. The dash will be at 95% and she passively regen down to 90% before going back up to 95 and then finally, FULL. But I accept this because it's what I have to do because here in the Cali Lite state of New York, they look for deleted trucks. I have heard of fellow coppers, not that I know them, from the state and local, go after deleted trucks doing work, but not the average Joe pulling a camper.
Most daily drivers of pickup trucks wouldn't dream to keep track of the stuff I do, do what I do for regens or even own a diesel daily driver. I acknowledge I'm the exception and NOT the rule. I first researched deletes when I bought my truck but found out my driving keeps the emissions hot and working. I didn't know about that when I bought my truck. Some probably didn't either and hence, why they have to delete. It's not my money... do what you please. I'm stock, I'm not having problems, I'm keeping my truck long term, I want to improve upon the factory components to improve performance while remaining stock but I'm not against ever deleting either. Always have to keep your options open.
I believe the stock compressor is 61.5mm. Decided myself not to change wheel sizes just the wheels themselves so spool up would remain the same. A stock truck will have zero issues running this combination. The stock turbo felt pent up when pushing it hard. It's tough to describe but when you compare the stock wheels vs. aftermarket it's easy to understand why.
There are a couple options out there for a turbine wheel. I run a StainlessDiesel 10 blade. It's quiet at idle, doesn't sound like a 6.0 jet engine. It has a pretty loud whistle starting around 1200rpm and the exhaust brake has a whistle to it.
There are mixed opinions about if intercooler upgrades help much at all with a stock turbo. I always go back to the 7.3 powerstroke on this subject. There are 100s of people that bought a Banks or Hypermax IC expecting results paired with the stock turbo that were disappointed when nothing changed. The turbo is the limiting factor, if it is pushing hot air and not happy no amount of intercooler will overcome that. That being said it can compliment a happy turbocharger and bring intake air temps down a couple degrees. Even then, for the cost there is minimal gain.
Not to pick on parts here but the same can be said with intake piping. Say a Pusher intake, what is it going to add for performance??? It's just a piece of round piece of pipe, it may lower over PSI because it has more volume to fill. It's not going to magically make more air go into the engine. What it is IMO is a reliability part. When your pushing hard and hitting 40psi+ you start worrying about the plastic intake holding up to those pressures. Similar to the stock intercooler pipe that everyone replaces. Just my opinion on the matter. If you want more, cooler air the turbocharger is the place to start.
Appreciate that experienced viewpoint...and the links. Thank you.
Here's a link to Mishimoto's blog with all 5 parts of the design and testing of their CAC for the 6.7 Powerstroke. Just a good read with good information..
Appears that there are two different part numbers for earlier to later years. The CAC appears to look the same, so maybe the extra cost for the 2017+ is due to the extra hoses and parts?
In any case, looks like I'll have to petition Santa for this upgrade. I'm gonna have to be less naughty to afford one of these, lol
Appears that there are two different part numbers for earlier to later years. The CAC appears to look the same, so maybe the extra cost for the 2017+ is due to the extra hoses and parts?
In any case, looks like I'll have to petition Santa for this upgrade. I'm gonna have to be less naughty to afford one of these, lol
So Ford decided to make the bottom pipe 2.5 inches on the 17 plus factory CAC, hence why you need a aftermarket cold CAC pipe to the Mishimoto CAC which has the 3 inch inlet for the bottom cold side like the 11 to 16s... goofy why Ford did that.
But yeah, not cheap but well made so why it's not cheap.
Here's a link to Mishimoto's blog with all 5 parts of the design and testing of their CAC for the 6.7 Powerstroke. Just a good read with good information..
A lot of these posts are from about two years ago, so I’m not sure if the PPE intercooler was available then. Does anyone have any input on which one might be better or preferred? I’m deciding between the PPE and the Mishimoto intercooler. I already have the Pusher pipes and coolant tube on my truck, and I know the PPE works with them because Arod made a video showing it hooked up fine to the Pusher pipes.
It seems like both options are about the same. One thing I like about the Mishimoto intercooler is that I can get it to match the Pusher pipes. However, I figured I could do the same with a raw-finished PPE intercooler, but I’d rather not deal with the hassle of getting it painted.
So if money was no option, for me, I'd probably go with SPE's "booklung" CAC... because it ain't cheap and its built like a brick schitt house...
Way back when, I liked the Mishimoto CAC...
But when I saw the PPE CAC, IMO, it looks to be bigger than the Mishimoto cooler and very similar in size to the SPE...
Now, I'm no expert, so take it for what its worth, but i like the PPE cooler... more than the Mishimoto... last time i looked at it online. I have no personal experience with either, just stating my views...
either would do well in my truck. I just think the PPE is bigger, like the SPE and will flow better, than the Mishimoto... but i could wrong...
So if money was no option, for me, I'd probably go with SPE's "booklung" CAC... because it ain't cheap and its built like a brick schitt house...
Way back when, I liked the Mishimoto CAC...
But when I saw the PPE CAC, IMO, it looks to be bigger than the Mishimoto cooler and very similar in size to the SPE...
Now, I'm no expert, so take it for what its worth, but i like the PPE cooler... more than the Mishimoto... last time i looked at it online. I have no personal experience with either, just stating my views...
either would do well in my truck. I just think the PPE is bigger, like the SPE and will flow better, than the Mishimoto... but i could wrong...
Good luck.
I really like the SPE option, but I just can’t justify the price. If I were running bigger turbos or had more horsepower, I’d definitely consider it. I appreciate your input and hadn’t fully considered the size difference before. After taking a closer look, I can see that the PPE is larger and provides better cooling compared to the Mishimoto based notes from each site. While the Mishimoto seems better built than stock, its cooling performance appears to be about the same. I’m leaning toward going with the PPE. Thanks again for your help!
I really like the SPE option, but I just can’t justify the price. If I were running bigger turbos or had more horsepower, I’d definitely consider it. I appreciate your input and hadn’t fully considered the size difference before. After taking a closer look, I can see that the PPE is larger and provides better cooling compared to the Mishimoto based notes from each site. While the Mishimoto seems better built than stock, its cooling performance appears to be about the same. I’m leaning toward going with the PPE. Thanks again for your help!
No problem. Yeah the SPE would be for a track truck or puller, with bigger turbo, injectors, etc.. and definitely overkill on a stocker like mine. Since the PPE is a little more than the Mishimoto and seems to have more benefit, that's the one I want to go with...
I thought this review on the PPE CAC was interesting:
"I have a 2019 f350 with Compound turbos from Pusher intakes I was originally running the no limit air to water intercooler however, it popped at 50 psi so I tested the PPE it didn’t pop til 125psi so I ordered another one in red to match my pipe kit ! Besides booklung air to water by SPE ($3500) this is the best there is specially considering price !! I haven’t been happier and I definitely notice the difference in the way the motor runs under pressure and my EGT’s haven’t hit more than 930ish and that’s punching it on 5sotf switch with a hot clean proven tune !"
This is interesting though...
SPE's cooler core that runs vertically:
PPE's:
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