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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 10:38 PM
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Ive searched and cannot find anything on the swag performance intercooler. Ive seen posts on the no limit intercooler and apparently buying from mitsimoto or whatever is some sort of mortal sin due to their customer service. The swag and no limit look similar and have similar claims to fame but at drastically different prices. Id prefer to upgrade vs going back stock. My truck is a 2016 f350, cclwb 4x4. Has tyrant tunes. Truck has 3.55 gears and when pulling my camper on a sustained hill it will peg out the temperature. I end up boiling over the smaller secondary expansion tank. Outside of towing that heavy i never have a issue. Ive done a fair amount of research and am leaning twards replacing the air to water intercooler as they are known to leak. My camper is on the upper limits id wager 15,500lbs fully loaded but even partially loaded i see the same issues. Im not trying to run 80mph and many times im closer to 55 or 60mph way slower when in colorado on a steep hill and to a degree ive noticed that manually downshifting so i dont loose momentum going into a hill helps as well as spools the turbo. Im trying to cover my bases to resolve the issue. Im also considering regearing the truck potentially.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2023 | 11:32 PM
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I have Mishimoto's oil catch can for my truck. I have had to deal with their customer service a few times and have zero complaints. They also have answered all my emails as well. AFE makes a CAC for the 6.7 Powerstroke as well. I want to upgrade my CAC in the future and will purchase a Mishimoto for my truck.

I've seen the No Limit and the Swag Performance CACs before... IMO, the Swag CAC is probably made out of country as that's too cheap a price. Call them and ask them questions.

Plus the coolant ports are not both on top like the stock one as well as the Mishimoto and the AFE. Not sure on the No Limit as I haven't seen theirs in awhile..
 

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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 06:06 AM
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Some turbocharger modifications may help more than an intercooler will.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Pro Power Diesel and SWAG look very very similar. I know the Pro Power CAC is heavy. I run Pro Power CAC in my truck along with their full piping kit. The CAC is not hard to install.





 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 08:01 AM
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Pro Power Diesel and SWAG look very very similar. I know the Pro Power CAC is heavy. I run Pro Power CAC in my truck along with their full piping kit. The CAC is not hard to install.
Just a quick question. Do the 17s and up change the location of one of the coolant hoses on the CACs (from the top to the bottom)? It says that CAC, on Pro Power Diesel, is for the 17 to 22 trucks. Both coolant connections are on top of the factory CAC on my truck.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 08:51 AM
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My OEM CAC had the lines on the top. Now, the Pro Power CAC ( 17 and up ) one appears to be the same as the SWAG ( 11-16 ). It is a very large CAC upgrade. I drained the main rad about three gallons and then removed the battery and battery box for maximum room to work. That gave me time to clean the battery box and coolant bottle. The 11-16's have a 3" bottom right hose opening. 17-19's reduced the opening to 2.5"s. I bought a new silicon hose that was 3"s to fit the new CAC and piping kit that I use from Pro Power.


 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 09:20 AM
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Awesome. Thanks for the pics and info.
 
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Originally Posted by brokestroke
Some turbocharger modifications may help more than an intercooler will.
What are you talking about? Ive debated a piping kit or a turbo but honestly im looking more for long term reliability vs a bunch of hop up mods. This truck is more my jump in and go anywhere vehicle and not have to worry about anything.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 12:03 PM
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Pro Power Diesel and SWAG look very very similar. I know the Pro Power CAC is heavy. I run Pro Power CAC in my truck along with their full piping kit. The CAC is not hard to install.
how long have you had it? I was unaware of that brand. Ive been a bit outside the forum loop and it seems most of the forums have gone quiet.
 
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Originally Posted by Lubbockguy1979
What are you talking about? Ive debated a piping kit or a turbo but honestly im looking more for long term reliability vs a bunch of hop up mods. This truck is more my jump in and go anywhere vehicle and not have to worry about anything.
I run a stock size 2016 turbo with a 10 blade turbine wheel and KC gen2 billet compressor wheel. The 10 blade helps the turbo breath a lot better than the stock 13 blade and keeps everything a lot cooler. Tow around 20k with a 40hp tune with zero issues.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lubbockguy1979
how long have you had it? I was unaware of that brand. Ive been a bit outside the forum loop and it seems most of the forums have gone quiet.

I installed mine in April 2023. I had it for two months prior to that. I was waiting for others parts to arrive first. I wanted to go in once and do the work, not 50 times.

I watched Colts Way video. He did his about seven. months ago. He struggled a bit. He is a funny guy. I thought my process through before I jumped in and did mine.



Quit as in how? Some people like stock trucks on this forum and some like deleted ones. You have tree huggers here and some not so much. Do a search of the forum to see if your question/questions have been asked before. I think that is where people fail a lot. Do your research first. This place can hit pretty hard on certain topics.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 04:02 PM
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colts way is great.


i'd go mishimoto. they have some solid gains to back up their intercooler as well. mishimoto intercooler and the pusher intake.........
 
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Originally Posted by brokestroke
I run a stock size 2016 turbo with a 10 blade turbine wheel and KC gen2 billet compressor wheel. The 10 blade helps the turbo breath a lot better than the stock 13 blade and keeps everything a lot cooler. Tow around 20k with a 40hp tune with zero issues.
So looking on KC Turbo's website, I see they sell a 10 blade turbine wheel for the 6.0 and some Duramax engines. I see that the same 10 blade turbine wheel, I'll assume, is used in their Whistler Stage 1 turbo. Is that the 10 blade turbine you're running?

As to the stock compressor wheel size for our year 6.7s, is it 63mm? Since we're on the subject, can a stock truck like mine run what you do with no ill effect with the stock fueling?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WK15
Some people like stock trucks on this forum and some like deleted ones. You have tree huggers here and some not so much. Do a search of the forum to see if your question/questions have been asked before. I think that is where people fail a lot. Do your research first. This place can hit pretty hard on certain topics.
I think being a tree hugger and driving a stock truck are two different things. I've gotten into this conversation plenty of times. While I disagree strongly with government's intrusion into the world of diesel while all these gasser sedans and SUVs blowing faint black smoke when they step on it (ever take a look at the tailpipes of a modern day DI gas vehicle?), and we have the climate change religion to thank for that, there's also some responsibility to be taken by the careless owners (some and not all) of deleted trucks that drive like not only aggressive morons, but so do half ton gassers and folks in general also, but who over the years have been smoking out people and rolling coal like morons. We now live in the internet age where people post stupid schitt to get likes. This all brought the attention of the EPA and other governmental agencies to us diesel pickup truck owners, whether we wanted or not. IMO, too many attention hoes on social media bringing a black eye onto diesel trucks like we all blow black smoke.

Now that that is off my chest, just because I drive a stock truck does not mean I'm against deletes. I'm not. But it's not the end all be all that everyone thinks it is. Yes, there are responsible diesel owners who are deleted that run a stock power or tow tune with very little smoke, but you guys weren't the problem. The problems started with the aforementioned morons in the first paragraph.

I wish I didn't have to drive my truck like I do for regens but it is what it is. The newer trucks use more DEF and less EGR so that may keep oil cleaner and less engine wear with less soot in the oil. These trucks like to run hot. I believe my location and my daily driving routine helps keep an unloaded daily driver 6.7 emissions functioning and regens out. And for the record, I love the sound of a deleted 6.7. But it's not always an option for some people. Some do it because they can, some do it because they want to and can, and some do it because they have to (for an unresolved issue).
 
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I think being a tree hugger and driving a stock truck are two different things. I've gotten into this conversation plenty of times. While I disagree strongly with government's intrusion into the world of diesel while all these gasser sedans and SUVs blowing faint black smoke when they step on it (ever take a look at the tailpipes of a modern day DI gas vehicle?), and we have the climate change religion to thank for that, there's also some responsibility to be taken by the careless owners (some and not all) of deleted trucks that drive like not only aggressive morons, but so do half ton gassers and folks in general also, but who over the years have been smoking out people and rolling coal like morons. We now live in the internet age where people post stupid schitt to get likes. This all brought the attention of the EPA and other governmental agencies to us diesel pickup truck owners, whether we wanted or not. IMO, too many attention hoes on social media bringing a black eye onto diesel trucks like we all blow black smoke.

Now that that is off my chest, just because I drive a stock truck does not mean I'm against deletes. I'm not. But it's not the end all be all that everyone thinks it is. Yes, there are responsible diesel owners who are deleted that run a stock power or tow tune with very little smoke, but you guys weren't the problem. The problems started with the aforementioned morons in the first paragraph.

I wish I didn't have to drive my truck like I do for regens but it is what it is. The newer trucks use more DEF and less EGR so that may keep oil cleaner and less engine wear with less soot in the oil. These trucks like to run hot. I believe my location and my daily driving routine helps keep an unloaded daily driver 6.7 emissions functioning and regens out. And for the record, I love the sound of a deleted 6.7. But it's not always an option for some people. Some do it because they can, some do it because they want to and can, and some do it because they have to (for an unresolved issue).
i think it all started when the minitruck guys with rubberband tires and dancing beds couldnt buy a new minitrucks. I want stockish simply because over the past 10+yrs of diesel ownership ive noticed folks spening 2x the value of a truck endlessly modding them then selling them when they are unusable as a truck. Id love a 11sec 4door truck but in reality i have a family, need transportation and to pull a heavy camper. So stock seems to be the ticket for usable amd reliability. I never would considered deleting my truck except for constant regens. It was a hassle to use my laptop.to force a regen once a month. Or drive 20-40 miles out of my way to get it to preform a regen on the highway.
 
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