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Old May 3, 2023 | 02:21 AM
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6.2 tapping noise

So my truck (2013 f150 6.2) will make this noise sometimes on startup. Doesn’t do it all the time and mainly seems to be cold starts. Sounds like a metallic tap, also seems a little louder at the back of the engine than the front. Is this the infamous 6.2 tick with nothing to worry about or something else?
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Old May 3, 2023 | 07:34 AM
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My 2013 made that noise on cold startup off and on but after I changed to 5w-30 oil it almost never happens anymore.

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Originally Posted by rvpuller
My 2013 made that noise on cold startup off and on but after I changed to 5w-30 oil it almost never happens anymore.

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interesting, I am running 5w-20 right now as it’s the factory spec but I’ve considered switching to 5w-30 at the next oil change anyways
 
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Old May 3, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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well I was in a drive through today and noticed the truck was making the noise. it was completely warmed up too, so there’s that
 
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How many miles are on the truck and how long have you had it.

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Old May 3, 2023 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
How many miles are on the truck and how long have you had it.

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185,000 miles. I’ve had it less than 6 months
 
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Drive throughs can make a great sound chamber so you can hear sounds you don't normally hear. I would try changing to 5w-30 and see if it makes a difference, it could be just a part in the valve train getting out of spec from miles. Ford changed the 6.2 to 5w-30 I think in 16 or 17 without any major changes to the motor and like I said I changed to it a few years ago.

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Old May 3, 2023 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
Drive throughs can make a great sound chamber so you can hear sounds you don't normally hear. I would try changing to 5w-30 and see if it makes a difference, it could be just a part in the valve train getting out of spec from miles. Ford changed the 6.2 to 5w-30 I think in 16 or 17 without any major changes to the motor and like I said I changed to it a few years ago.

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I’ll definitely try that, the truck also makes some kind of knock/rattle on acceleration, not sure if it’s valve rattle or spark knock or what. I plan to run some higher octane gas or octane booster to see if it goes away.
 
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What you really need to do is get 16 new plugs (2 per cylinder) new wires and boots before you start throwing any major parts or time at it. 185K without knowing what's been done to it start with a good tuneup. Pay attention to the plugs when you remove them so if you can see if any one cylinder has a problem. If it keeps on nocking on acceleration replace the nock sensors.

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Originally Posted by rvpuller
What you really need to do is get 16 new plugs (2 per cylinder) new wires and boots before you start throwing any major parts or time at it. 185K without knowing what's been done to it start with a good tuneup. Pay attention to the plugs when you remove them so if you can see if any one cylinder has a problem. If it keeps on nocking on acceleration replace the nock sensors.

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I’ve already put new plugs and wires in it, found out after it’s good to do the boots as well so I have those on the way now. The knocking isn’t horrible, just a little rattle off and on, but it does bug me.
 
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Put your truck in a dark building or go out at night and look under the hood when idling and see if you have any arching at the coil packs, they have been known to break down and start arching.

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Originally Posted by longwhitexl
I’ve already put new plugs and wires in it, found out after it’s good to do the boots as well so I have those on the way now. The knocking isn’t horrible, just a little rattle off and on, but it does bug me.
Chances are at that mileage some coils will be trashed, and you can't put a boot or resistor. Replace with Denso or Motorcraft.
 
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Originally Posted by explorerdriver
Chances are at that mileage some coils will be trashed, and you can't put a boot or resistor. Replace with Denso or Motorcraft.
Is there a way to test for a bad coil, other than see them arcing at night? I’ve read there’s no need to replace coils unless they fail.
 
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Originally Posted by longwhitexl
Is there a way to test for a bad coil, other than see them arcing at night? I’ve read there’s no need to replace coils unless they fail.
You can identify an arcing coil very easily. You can see it day or night and it makes an identifiable snapping sound just like if you were to be zapped by static electricity. Nothing else in the engine bay sounds like that so it cant be mistaken. There really is no testing that can be done as the coil is still functioning and providing enough voltage to the spark plug and what's escaping through the arc is minimal.

All my 6.2L trucks with over 100k miles have arcing coils to some degree. Not worth replacing them unless you cant stand the noise.
 
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Originally Posted by OverheadCram
You can identify an arcing coil very easily. You can see it day or night and it makes an identifiable snapping sound just like if you were to be zapped by static electricity. Nothing else in the engine bay sounds like that so it cant be mistaken. There really is no testing that can be done as the coil is still functioning and providing enough voltage to the spark plug and what's escaping through the arc is minimal.

All my 6.2L trucks with over 100k miles have arcing coils to some degree. Not worth replacing them unless you cant stand the noise.
Yes, for some reason it does not really affect operation. Ran perfect. No codes. That is not cool though if any gas leaks.
The cheap coils were another story.
When you take the coils apart, you can see broken tabs where the resistor sits, and daylight thru some of them - that is how you know it is spent. The resistor will come out like a carbon powder.
 
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