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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 04:43 PM
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The numbers......

As hard as I try to understand this stuff, I just can't seem to grasp it.
You want to try and penetrate my ignorance.....please.

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2011 F-250 SC FX4 6.2 reg bed
3.73 auto 6 speed.
payload 3095 lbs
front axle 5095 lbs
rear axle 6100 lbs
GVWR 10k
Trailer
GWVR 7,702
DRY WEIGHT 5,346
HITCH WEIGHT 702
Model # of trailer: Radiance R-21RB
I just weighed the tongue ready to go less food in refrigerator, a few clothes, it weighed 800 lbs.
WDH is a E-2 round bar 1000k hitch weight, 10k trailer max.
Wife, me, two dogs and some stuff in bed of truck at most 700 lbs total payload (less fuel) so I am what, 1k under max payload?
Dose this seem like a decent setup.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by island eddie
As hard as I try to understand this stuff, I just can't seem to grasp it.
You want to try and penetrate my ignorance.....please.

Truck
2011 F-250 SC FX4 6.2 reg bed
3.73 auto 6 speed.
payload 3095 lbs
front axle 5095 lbs
rear axle 6100 lbs
GVWR 10k
Trailer
GWVR 7,702
DRY WEIGHT 5,346
HITCH WEIGHT 702
Model # of trailer: Radiance R-21RB
I just weighed the tongue ready to go less food in refrigerator, a few clothes, it weighed 800 lbs.
WDH is a E-2 round bar 1000k hitch weight, 10k trailer max.
Wife, me, two dogs and some stuff in bed of truck at most 700 lbs total payload (less fuel) so I am what, 1k under max payload?
Dose this seem like a decent setup.
It seems like a decent setup. Make sure your E2 is dialed in. A trip or 2 to a CAT is in order. Weighing with trailer hooked up both with the bars in place and without bars is good. Then drop the trailer in lot and weigh the truck alone. Make sure both tow vehicle axles on separate scale as well as the combination trailer tires.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
It seems like a decent setup. Make sure your E2 is dialed in. A trip or 2 to a CAT is in order. Weighing with trailer hooked up both with the bars in place and without bars is good. Then drop the trailer in lot and weigh the truck alone. Make sure both tow vehicle axles on separate scale as well as the combination trailer tires.
Thanks for the reply.
I have 3 trips with it thus far, 4 if you count pulling it home about 100 miles from the lot.
It pulls without issue, very easy and stable, level, brakes without issue, very similar to my last trailer that was bigger length but not it weight, however it had spread axles and they were located more in the middle of the trailer, had a 200 pound less togue weight.
Just wish I could grasp the numbers
I am pretty timid about going to a cat scale, I know I shouldn't be, just getting tired of feeling like an idiot I guess ARG.
Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2023 | 06:49 AM
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I think you have a 'better than average' set-up. Published numbers are often light on TT, your numbers seem very typical. What are you specific questions / concerns ?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2023 | 08:11 AM
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Your setup is fine, if it tows and rides fine no need to visit the CAT scales.
Add up the tongue weight, plus stuff in truck plus you and passengers, subtract it from the payload and that's how you'd figure how much below payload you are. You'll be well under it, probably in your 1k-ish give or take range I'd imagine.
 
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Originally Posted by SpencerPJ
I think you have a 'better than average' set-up. Published numbers are often light on TT, your numbers seem very typical. What are you specific questions / concerns ?
I am just trying to remove that lingering doubt based upon ignorance that dances around in my head..... when hooking up and pulling.
In my three plus years of pulling a travel trailer, I've had not one issue in the 10k plus miles.
I have traveled in 40MPH crosswinds on an interstate without any problems in the first trailer that had very similar numbers.
Never feel sucked in when a big rig passes.
I have pulled up and over the Cascades on SR 20, that is a beast, 6 times, and over the continental divide on US 90 4 times, no problems with going up, I had leftover pedal if needed @ 4k RPM's and no issues with maintaining a speed going down where I rarely had to tap my brakes to slow.
Yet.....that little uncertainty still accompanies whenever I am pulling.......
I just had a thought while typing this, maybe I am confused in the way I am interpreting my concern......????
Maybe it's being prudent and engaging while towing, and not relaxing too much instead?
I know when I use to ride my motorcycle to work because I worked off island and the ferries in summer could take an hour or more in line, where motorcycles go directly in front, no waiting.....
I was taught in riding class to never let down your guard while riding, you must always stay engaged and scanning for possible problems with the roadway or other drivers, because they often don't even see you....
What I learned there has saved my bacon more than once while driving my bike, car or truck, and once from anticipating that a person MIGHT pull out in front of me while I was pulling the trailer down a grade at 50 miles an hour, they pulled out in front of me from a side street....My wife still credits me with not T-boning that idiot, I was ready for it and had already started taking actions while under control.
Maybe its a good thing?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2023 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CheeseheadFord
Your setup is fine, if it tows and rides fine no need to visit the CAT scales.
Add up the tongue weight, plus stuff in truck plus you and passengers, subtract it from the payload and that's how you'd figure how much below payload you are. You'll be well under it, probably in your 1k-ish give or take range I'd imagine.
Thank you.
I purchased this little guy hoping it will give me a quick tool to give me a idea to what I am at.
I'll play around with it and see if it helps keeps those black helicopters from following me when I am towing

Simple WEIGH™ Tongue Weight Scale on Amazon.

 
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Old Mar 28, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by island eddie
Thank you.
I purchased this little guy hoping it will give me a quick tool to give me a idea to what I am at.
I'll play around with it and see if it helps keeps those black helicopters from following me when I am towing

Simple WEIGH™ Tongue Weight Scale on Amazon.

Your GWVR of your camper is similar to mine, but mine is 38 ft long. I've never been to a CAT scale, don't ever have plans to, and tows fine in every situation I've been in. Granted I've never taken it up a mountain pass or in 100s of miles of hills but I wouldn't hesitate to do so. You're doing a lot of worrying for nothing, which isn't a bad thing, most people are the opposite and don't worry about overloading or towing waaaay too much with their trucks....
 
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