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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 10:28 PM
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Billet Hpop

I received it and installed it today. I debated spending the money on this at great length, largely due to the lack of reviews. If anyone else is running one of these, I missed it and didn't find the thread.
This thing is heavy compared to the cast unit. A lot of material there, being thicker in every available dimension.
I tried taking a lot of detailed pics.
I wanted to show a detailed shot of the area for the end plate retaining ring, etc..

And managed to not get that shot quite right. I swear it looked okay on the phone.


Smearing the lens with my grimey fingers made the rest of the pics useless and even more blurry than this one.

My reasons for going with the billet.
1. Kids are grown and busy with their own lives & the ex-wife is someone else's problem, so I can have nice things if I want.
2. I'm keeping my excursion forever so underhood bling parts are an investment. gotta be an extra 150ftlbs just because billet right? that's how it worked with the gold nugget dipstick flange.
3. The current issue with hpop quality and availability appears to be in the lack of good cast housings. There is also the influx of imported hpop's no doubt being used as cores, and that to me is a risk not conducive to long-term reliability.
Also, I don't know how many times a good OEM housing can be rebuilt before it becomes a gamble and I never could find out much about that.

So I figure if I am going to be in this for the long haul, investing in a solid, rebuildable housing could be a good way to go. When the time comes I hope to just have this one rebuilt and keep the same serialized housing.
The adrenaline that this is replacing was part of the "first things I did" when I took possession of my 7.3 in Feb. 2014. I did not record the exact mileage but the old hpop has between 170k & 200K on it.
It served me well in that time but has started to get tired. I didn't make the decision lightly, I tried everything I could to rule out the hpop. Even went so far as to open a sealed IPR I was saving.
Today, this one starts life at 380,568 miles. Unless something bad happens, I guess I'll come back and update this in 8-10 years.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 12:00 AM
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I stumbled across these a few months back. About all I remember is they are spendy no doubt. Do they post any advertised flow numbers? Other than the billet aspect what sort of improvements are they sporting? Direct drop in swap or are there ”supporting mods” required to shoehorn that beast in the valley?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 02:18 AM
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It bolted up without any other changes needed. fitment was uneventful with the cnc fab lines and fittings transferred over from the previous hpop.
I think it is safe to assume it will fit under a stock fuel bowl, but I don't have that anymore so grains of salt and all. I'd ask them first.
They don't give any hard numbers, an increasingly common trait these days. Seems everyone is marketing on "this more better" than real numbers.
I am almost certain when I replaced my original hpop for the adrenaline, there was at least a swash plate angle given.
I'd wager internally it is the same adrenaline.

 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by callforfire
They don't give any hard numbers, an increasingly common trait these days. Seems everyone is marketing on "this more better" than real numbers.
You've noticed that too huh. It's almost becoming a full fledged pet peeve with me. If you want my money you need to at least tell me what it is I'm buying.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:11 AM
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200,000 miles out of an Adrenaline HPOP is a bit surprising to me, but not disappointing. We all know that the mileage lifespan of parts such as these can vary wildly based on vehicle use and maintenance schedules. Not to mention build standards and quality checks prior to being sent to the customer.

Joking aside... What size socket fits on that HPOP? It looks like a 4" or so is the right size... OK, joking aside for real this time...

I too would jump in on your wager that the billet version is identical to the non-billet version of the Adrenaline regarding the internals. Your right about the vagueness of parts descriptions these days. In my humble opinion, that is because applications like FORScan are becoming more popular and easily accessible allowing anyone to view the realized performance differences by the millisecond. If one data point out of 100,000 lines of data drop out of the advertised specification, then they go to the source with a "WTF" question.

Thanks for posting this and showing off your truck bling.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:47 AM
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I see that a $400 core is required, even for the billet product.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 01:50 PM
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Just put the first 25 miles on it. Definitely has the new hpop feel. Everything went as one would expect with an hpop install. I primed everything with fresh oil as much as possible and still had a long crank and rough idle in the beginning, but did eventually smooth out.
I got a bit of a log with forscan to review as I've never seen the numbers right after an hpop replacement. IPR was high and unstable like it was hunting for ICP. I guess there really is no way to get all of the air out beforehand.
Overall it was a very good little trip with a mix of driving up to 60 in some parts and managed to get in some hard acceleration. It would have been longer but I always get the new parts paranoia and have to do frequent checks on everything for leaks and such until I get comfortable.
A quick peek under the hood showed a dry valley, but once she cools down I'll be climbing around with a mirror and flash light looking for anything not right and feeling for wetness.
So far so good.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 01:57 PM
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What's the story on your injectors?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 02:22 PM
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What's the story on your injectors?
Those 238/80s are doing great! Thank you.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 02:27 PM
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Great to hear. The pump looks fantastic.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 04:50 PM
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I "decided" at somepoint,that i will buy that Billet Adrenaline..

I ended up just putting old one in..​​​​​​
 
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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I see that a $400 core is required, even for the billet product.
That fact right there keeps me from buying a whole lot of NEW parts - regardless of what they are for.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 07:00 PM
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The core parts go into the new billet case 😉
 
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 08:18 PM
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Remember stealth pumps? I tried to order one of those with the larger pistons and all the billet bling back in the day.
Then they just up and quit. I don't know the story, some sort of internal dramas. Had me on extended back order then refunded without a word.
That popped into my mind this morning while I was scraping ice off the windows... and nobody ever picked up where they left off...
It would have been nice if there was something like this that had improved bits on the inside. I guess our shrinking market doesn't have much room for new.

 
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 08:22 PM
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It's all about the swash plate angle. Wouldn't it be great if someone offered a DIY performance pump rebuild kit?
 
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