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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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need help with '67 9" diff brakes

Hi, I have a 1960 M100 that I'm fixing up and I need some help with rear brakes. I'm swapping the diff out with one from a 1967 F100 (which is why I'm posting this here and not the 1960 thread) since my original diff was piled up with rust and this was what I was able to find locally. I need some help with the rear brakes, they're not the standard 1-3/4" shoe brakes, they appear to be 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" shoes, and the drums might be wider than standard and have a lip that wraps around the outside of the backing plate flange as well, but they're for a standard 5 lug pattern and not a heavier duty 6 or 8 lug. What package on these trucks had the wider brakes, will the 1-3/4" brakes work without changing the backing plates, and does anyone have part numbers or info on where to find them, I can't seem to find anything through google other than maybe supposedly the camper special had the wider brakes but I can't seem to find anything else.

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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 05:56 PM
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How do you know it is a 67? Does it have a tag that starts with C7? What prefix does the tag have or is it w/o one? 67's had 1 3/4 shoes, while 68+71/72 had 2 1/4 shoes in the rear. I would use the bigger shoes for better braking.
https://www.fordification.com/tech/67differences.htm
Section 22.1 - '64-'72 Ford Trucks Master Parts Catalog - FORDification.com

 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 06:00 PM
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I was told it was off of a 1967, but it very well could've been a 1968. I'm thinking I should call the guy I got it from to double check what year it is for sure.
 
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1967 did, indeed, use 1 3/4" shoes as Rich said. But I would stick with those instead of the wider brakes. The backing plates and a lot under the drums are different between the two. Too complicated for my taste. Do you have a local automotive parts store that turns (resurfaces) brake drums? Take your drums there, see if they can be turned within legal limits, and buy what parts you need from them.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 12:23 PM
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Got brakes for a 68 and they fit, so it's not a 67 as I was told. Tried my original 60s backing plates and I had the same issue of the drum not going on the shoes all the way.
 
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Were the 1968 brake shoes the correct width?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 10:50 PM
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Yes, the '68 and later brakes fit perfectly, I figured out what year range the diff is and got brakes for it (got brakes for '68 as I mentioned before) and it fits fine.
 
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The easiest way to tell the difference between the 61-67 housings and the 68-72 housings is to compare the pumpkins. The 61-67's have a fill plug in the back of the housing and no plug in the center section. There was a transition period between 66-67 where there could be fill plugs in both housing and center. The 68-72's have a fill plug in the center section and no plug in the pumpkin plus they look different.
Also, the 68-72 housings and axles are not the same dimensions as the earlier ones. Ford narrowed the housing and moved the bearing seat on the 68-72 axles to make room for wider brakes and keep the shoes centered in the drum. First picture is a 65.



 
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