Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

No power...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 11, 2022 | 06:40 AM
  #1  
Sickler1's Avatar
Sickler1
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 721
Likes: 4
From: Forked River NJ
No power...

I have a 2003 f450 with 196k miles. The truck has no power until 55mph then you can hear the turbo actually spool at 55mph. When hitting the accelerator it falls on its face and takes about 3-4 miles to get up to 55mph. Hooked up scanner and no codes are popping up.

Thanks for any guidance!
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2022 | 06:58 AM
  #2  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Sickler1
I have a 2003 f450 with 196k miles. The truck has no power until 55mph then you can hear the turbo actually spool at 55mph. When hitting the accelerator it falls on its face and takes about 3-4 miles to get up to 55mph. Hooked up scanner and no codes are popping up.

Thanks for any guidance!
Read this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...condition.html

And when people say they have no codes, I have found that many really do. What scan tool are you using?
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2022 | 07:10 AM
  #3  
Sickler1's Avatar
Sickler1
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 721
Likes: 4
From: Forked River NJ
Originally Posted by bismic
Read this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...condition.html

And when people say they have no codes, I have found that many really do. What scan tool are you using?
my neighbor is a mechanic at Ford Dealer (doesnt work on diesels) and used his scanner..thinking it was a snap on one
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2022 | 07:47 AM
  #4  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Well. that's convenient for sure. Snap On scan tools seem to be very good.

So no codes. That means you have to post data. Read the thread and you will get an understanding of how MANY things can cause a low power situation. Ford also published a low power troubleshooting guide for the 6.0L IIRC. Maybe your neighbor can find that. Much of my thread is from that Ford procedure.

In the meantime, make sure oil levels are good, and ESPECIALLY not over-full.

Check fuel flow to the secondary fuel filter nad make sure it is a strong flow with no bubbles (you will need to remove the secondary fuel filter and any standing fuel. Be careful and have a helper - it fills VERY quickly. Again, you should see NO bubbles.

Watch ICP actual, ICP volts, ICP desired, and IPR % duty cycle when trying to gain power. We need to see that data.

Also, get the engine wired up and disconnect the VGT actuator connector when idling. Post up what you saw and heard in that test. While you are at it, make sure that connector is in good shape and connects solidly. Also make sure the wiring is good to that connector.

Look for signs of exhaust leaks.
Look for signs of intake leaks.
Make sure the filter minder does not show a plugged air filter.

etc - it is all in the thread.
 
Reply
Old Dec 11, 2022 | 10:03 AM
  #5  
Sickler1's Avatar
Sickler1
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 721
Likes: 4
From: Forked River NJ
Originally Posted by bismic
Well. that's convenient for sure. Snap On scan tools seem to be very good.

So no codes. That means you have to post data. Read the thread and you will get an understanding of how MANY things can cause a low power situation. Ford also published a low power troubleshooting guide for the 6.0L IIRC. Maybe your neighbor can find that. Much of my thread is from that Ford procedure.

In the meantime, make sure oil levels are good, and ESPECIALLY not over-full.

Check fuel flow to the secondary fuel filter nad make sure it is a strong flow with no bubbles (you will need to remove the secondary fuel filter and any standing fuel. Be careful and have a helper - it fills VERY quickly. Again, you should see NO bubbles.

Watch ICP actual, ICP volts, ICP desired, and IPR % duty cycle when trying to gain power. We need to see that data.

Also, get the engine wired up and disconnect the VGT actuator connector when idling. Post up what you saw and heard in that test. While you are at it, make sure that connector is in good shape and connects solidly. Also make sure the wiring is good to that connector.

Look for signs of exhaust leaks.
Look for signs of intake leaks.
Make sure the filter minder does not show a plugged air filter.

etc - it is all in the thread.
Thanks for getting back to me. Iam going to check on all these during the week and post up results. Its been happening for a few months and no change. Changed oil did air filter change and changed all the fuel filters. Add diesel treatments also.
 
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2022 | 01:23 PM
  #6  
Sickler1's Avatar
Sickler1
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 721
Likes: 4
From: Forked River NJ
Originally Posted by bismic
Well. that's convenient for sure. Snap On scan tools seem to be very good.

So no codes. That means you have to post data. Read the thread and you will get an understanding of how MANY things can cause a low power situation. Ford also published a low power troubleshooting guide for the 6.0L IIRC. Maybe your neighbor can find that. Much of my thread is from that Ford procedure.

In the meantime, make sure oil levels are good, and ESPECIALLY not over-full.

Check fuel flow to the secondary fuel filter nad make sure it is a strong flow with no bubbles (you will need to remove the secondary fuel filter and any standing fuel. Be careful and have a helper - it fills VERY quickly. Again, you should see NO bubbles.

Watch ICP actual, ICP volts, ICP desired, and IPR % duty cycle when trying to gain power. We need to see that data.

Also, get the engine wired up and disconnect the VGT actuator connector when idling. Post up what you saw and heard in that test. While you are at it, make sure that connector is in good shape and connects solidly. Also make sure the wiring is good to that connector.

Look for signs of exhaust leaks.
Look for signs of intake leaks.
Make sure the filter minder does not show a plugged air filter.

etc - it is all in the thread.
did recheck for codes. this is what popped up...


 
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2022 | 01:28 PM
  #7  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
P2263:

Stuck turbo, MAP sensor, MAP hose plugged or leaking, CAC hose disconnected or leaking, intake leaks, exhaust restriction, exhaust leaks, EBP sensor or EBP tube plugged, or bad VGT solenoid.

This code is set when MGP does not go over 15kPa or 2.2 psi when the following conditions are met: rpm must be over 2800; VFDES above 35; and EGRVP above 0.10. All of these conditions must be met for 5 seconds for the code to be set.

This code is used to detect a charge air cooler hose that has become disconnected. This code can also be set if there is ANY condition that would produce low power.
 
Reply
Old Dec 14, 2022 | 01:38 PM
  #8  
Sickler1's Avatar
Sickler1
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 721
Likes: 4
From: Forked River NJ
Originally Posted by bismic
P2263:

Stuck turbo, MAP sensor, MAP hose plugged or leaking, CAC hose disconnected or leaking, intake leaks, exhaust restriction, exhaust leaks, EBP sensor or EBP tube plugged, or bad VGT solenoid.

This code is set when MGP does not go over 15kPa or 2.2 psi when the following conditions are met: rpm must be over 2800; VFDES above 35; and EGRVP above 0.10. All of these conditions must be met for 5 seconds for the code to be set.

This code is used to detect a charge air cooler hose that has become disconnected. This code can also be set if there is ANY condition that would produce low power.
thanks for quick reply. Where would you suggest I start? I took a video of the scanner looking over all the sensors...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 14, 2022 | 02:38 PM
  #9  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Look for leaks. Exhaust leaks should show soot. Intake leaks are a little tougher, but inspect the CAC hoses at a minimum.

Remove the MAP hose and inspect it for leaks or being plugged.

Remove the EBP sensor and see if it has soot inside the sensor. Use a backup wrench when removing the sensor or you will probably bend the tubing under it.
Run a stiff weed whacker string down the EBP tube all the way to the exhaust manifold to check for restrictions.

Post what EBP, MAP, and Baro readings are at KOEO.

You can pressure test the intake and the exhaust - there are youtube videos on it.

After the engine is warmed up, idle it in your driveway and disconnect the VGT solenoid connector. You should hear the engine change sounds. Be careful and don't break the tabs off of the connector.

Most, if not all, of what I just typed is in the thread I linked to above.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2022 | 06:02 PM
  #10  
Theboneskes's Avatar
Theboneskes
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 947
Likes: 144
From: Columbus Ohio
Thanks bismic... i will check my truck for these too. Just happened to read what you posted on here for P2236. Thats the only code i have. Will start with the MAP and then check the ebp tube. Thank you!
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Scerb
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Apr 27, 2018 08:18 PM
2006powerstroke90
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
12
Oct 26, 2011 04:34 AM
Stroker67
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
11
Sep 19, 2003 08:29 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:05 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE