Nov 2022 All topic thread
During the first part of the pandemic, I put on maybe 15 pounds. It was not good for me. The last 6-8 months I've watched my intake a lot more closely. For me, it's mainly just skipping lunch. So I have a decent breakfast, and a decent dinner and I'm good to go. I not only lost that 15 pounds, but almost another 5, and am now down to 195 lbs. My pants fit better too.
With a lot of those fruit trees, you need chill hours. We get enough chill in San Francisco. Do you have enough winter days and nights under 40? I think you should be fine in The South Bay. If you look around your area and see what neighbors are growing, then you should be able to grow it also. From what I recall, The South Bay is good for citrus.
If I had to pick, I would plan for chill tolerant trees, as opposed to minimum chill requirements.
See if you can get something different. Like jujube or loquat. Loquat in my yard is really good. Low labor. Good yields.
During the first part of the pandemic, I put on maybe 15 pounds. It was not good for me. The last 6-8 months I've watched my intake a lot more closely. For me, it's mainly just skipping lunch. So I have a decent breakfast, and a decent dinner and I'm good to go. I not only lost that 15 pounds, but almost another 5, and am now down to 195 lbs. My pants fit better too.
Managing weight is tricky. Pre pandemic, I was 25 lbs heavier. I eat out less. Restaurant meals have a lot of food on the plate. That's a lot of salt, fat, and cholesterol reduced. Now, I eat whatever I want. No diet. Only eat when I get hungry. I used to eat by the clock. If it was time for lunch, I ate even when I wasn't hungry. Now, I skip breakfast, because I didn't wake up hungry. Stop eating when full, even with food left in the plate. I used to eat everything, because I didn't want leftovers. If I was full, I kept eating to finish everything. That reduced my food intake by 1/4.
The big difference was eating huge plates of restaurant food. There are probably waiters who are missing out on my tips. But I lost weight and saved money.
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I am tempted to eat it early. I have options. Lay it out spatchcock style. Roll it and tie it. Stitch it and stuff it. Debone a chicken and a duck, then make turducken.
If I had to pick, I would plan for chill tolerant trees, as opposed to minimum chill requirements.
See if you can get something different. Like jujube or loquat. Loquat in my yard is really good. Low labor. Good yields.

Jim
I'm from a family of immigrants. Surrounded by the spawn and seed of immigrants. People close to me range from 6th, or 8th generation Americans, to 1st generation Americans. Some have recently immigrated, and they identify as "American". Nobody is a member of The Mayflower Society. That's not by choice. I've just never met anyone, and nobody in the family has ever married anyone, whose ancestors landed on Plymouth Rock. We are the descendants of political subversives escaping oppressive regimes, common criminals fleeing prosecution, failed freedom fighters from failed military campaigns, people of faith who were not allowed to practice their faith, wretched poor escaping starvation and poverty. Our forefathers immigrated for freedom, opportunity, and for all of us to achieve and have more. Greed. Greed is good.
So aside from the cheap, genetically manipulated, turkey, pumped full of antibiotics and steroids - the side dishes will be a mix of dishes from different cultures. Not side dishes at all, really. Mostly main courses, all served alongside the turkey. Everybody will bring something based on whatever food their culture is known for. Paella. Pasta. Sushi. Pad Thai. Pancit. Curry. Roast duck. Leg of lamb. Fruit platters. Vegetable platters. Meatloaf. Bo Tai Chanh. Carpaccio. Tartare. Kibbeh. Stews. Kebabs. My cousins from The Suburbs will no doubt, as they have done every year for over a decade, showcase the lifestyle of suburbia. The finest food sold at Costco. Trays of Costco lasagna and enchiladas. Costco pizza. Costco meatballs, mini corn dogs, and chicken wings. Costco potstickers. It makes Turkey Day feel like the free lunch buffet at a strip club.
I'm 5th generation Chinatown - a unique subculture in and of itself. Rooted in The Gold Rush era. Grifters. Addicts. Prostitutes. Gamblers. Hatchet Men. Nothing was underground. Everything still is out in the open. Newstands sell porno mags alongside the NY Times and Wall Street Journal. Where Chinese restaurants serve roast pork loin chops smothered in brown gravy, with spaghetti, and an unapologetic pile of boiled cabbage with corn from a can. I supply the bird. It's rumored that I do the turkey every year because it's the cheapest part of the meal. Even a pie cost more than the bird. The guy who brings napkins and paper plates spends more. And they are right. I do the bird because I'm cheap. Even the tank full of propane for the turkey fryer cost more than the bird.
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Jim
They had stickers that said "Mexico". Which is fine by me. While I want to buy American...... I'm not willing to pay 3 times as much. Oddly enough, with overnight temperatures dipping to 40 degrees, I saw seedling sprouts in the yard. Even in cold and foggy San Francisco, the avocado seed will sprout. If I ever get 1 good tree, that actually produces good fruit, I will patent it as The San Francisco Avocado. Then I can retire by collecting patent fees. Maybe I can sell the tree's DNA to Monsanto.
I'm still a little bit cautious when getting avocado during cold weather months. I hear that greedy growers will harvest fruit off the tree before it's ready to be picked, just to fill market orders. Then you get a premature avocado that does not ripen. It won't. It can't. It wasn't on the tree long enough to develop the avocado oil. It just stays hard and rubbery. Most major grocery stores are pretty good about letting you exchange it. But what a hassle to keep it in the refrigerator until the next time you go back to that store.
Since you're getting new trees, you can plant them and grow them any way you want. I heard that commercials orchards now want small, low trees. High density planting. They don't space them out anymore. Advantage is that it's easier to keep the tree small, than have to trim a big tree later. And picking the fruit is a lot less labor intensive.














