All,

Hello again...

Aparently my 1995 Ford F150 has two leaks.. One is from
the Oil pan (I'm told is the location) and the other..
Transmission somewhere in the Middle.

My question is... Is it really necessary to have to
lift the Truck to change the Oil Pan Gasket?
I mean on my old buick I didn't have to do that?

What's this I keep hearing about it's up under
and I have to loosen bolts.. ???

Has anybody done this and/or done this the old
fassion way.. by Jacking and crawling under..????

Please Advise.. I don't want to pay 400 for labor to
JACK it up..

Thanks again..

OH.. Sam issues with the Trans.... Is there a gasket there
in the middle.. ????

 

Yes, you can change the oilpan gasket without jacking the engine up...you can't remove it without doing it though. Use a one piece and you can fish it in there. the leak between the engine and tranmission is probably the rear main seal?? Could be the torque converter plug if its coming out of the converter housing...

 

Dbuck....

Ok.. I'm just a Guitar Player and Comptuer person..
So.. Break it down for my clarity.....

Oil Gasket:
I can jack the Truck up and put Jack Stands under it
(Safty First!) and crawl under and find a serious of screws
and unscrew them and pull the oil pan off... Clean it
up, put on some permatex, put in the new Gasket,
Put the oil pan back on.. and Tighten down the screws.
That's what I'm used to doing.. So.. In my terms here..
Tell me what I can and can't do? I don't know exactly
what you mean by Fish other than Bass Fishing..is really
fun..

On the Transmission.. I had a Tran Job done.. and the
Real Seal was replaced fine. Now the "Middle" is leaking..
I guess it's comming from the "Big" part in the middle
with all the screws where two parts come together..
My Big question is.. Can I jack up the Truck and get under
there and take unscrews these things and be able to
put a new Gasket on if necessary and get these parts
back together without special parts.. I don't want
to find out I need special tools.. or it's impossible to
pull off.. I'm reminded of that time I was working on
the Volkswagon Clutch.. Complicated.. So.. if I get
the Ok. from someone who's done these.. I'm going
to jack it up.. put the floor jacks on.. get under there
and start dealing with this.. I just dont want to
do so.. if it's not possible to begin with..
Also.. Does anyone have pictures of the Action under
there? Like an Oil pan picture.. from Instructions..
I do own the Ford Manul for my Turck so that was
purchased but. I don't have it with me..

Best Regards
David

 

With the oil pan gasket, you won't be able to take the pan completely out. It will drop down enough to get the old gasket out and put the new one in. I didn't use any silicone on the one in my dad's truck. Get a one piece gasket from Ford. It may be helpful to have another set of hands to help hold things in place during re-assembly.

The rear main is much much more involved. It might be easier for you to take it to someone to fix this leak. I'm not sure where it is, but if it's in the middle of the transmission, it probably will require some extensive disassembly.

 

EP...

Thank You.. More great input....Ok.. I'm getting the picture!
Keep warm out there in NC....

Thank You..

 

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/443162/2

this is a pic of my new oil pan that i had installed for 850 last month

its kinda hard to see but hell yeah you have a very very tigth place to work in. its really not that hard to lift the engine just a bit i dont think. and in the middle of the transmition were two peices come together is the transmition pan which is easy, really easy to replce.

my actual oil pan was rusted not just the gasket if its just the gasket you can drop the pan about 2 or 3 inches untill it hits the crossmemebr that basically holds the engine in place. by fish it in he means you can take the gasket and manuver it into place under the cranckshaft and to the other side . i dont see why you would need to use a one peace gasket besides if you drop it int he pan your screwed as in its gunna be hard to get out.

i am only 15 ok so im not exactly a genious, i have learned everyhting that i knwo from my neigbor and self experiance.

if you need me to tell you exatly what needs to be dont or reserch more for you i will. i am in to computers also love online gaming.

 

OK, by fish it in there I mean that you can only drop the pan by a few inches, so you have to pull the old gasket out and make sure the surfaces are clean...this is the harder part. Getting the new gasket in there isn't too bad as long as you are using the one piece rubber gasket (felpro blue)...and there is no need for any sealer with this gasket. Since the pan is only a few inches down, you have to push it in on one side and grab it at the front and back of the pan to bring it to the other side...it really isn't that bad. Mine is a 4x4 so I didn't have to jack anything up at all...

need more info on the tranny...sounds like you are referring to the pan on the tranny?? big flat thing with about 14 bolts on it? if so, all you need to do is get a filter kit and it should have a new cork gasket (might as well replace the filter too). No special tools here if it is indeed the pan you are referring too. Do you know what kind of tranny it is? I hope you aren't referring to the transfer case? give me more info.

 

Homoudont,

That's awsome description.. Thanks you for the picture..
Thank You all. .This forum is fantastic.. Just Fantastic..
Reference...

 

Homoudont..
Wow.. Thanks for the Picture.. I snapped it here with
screen print gold .. That's gonna help..
So.. It only looks like a couple of bolts..
Ok.. So the issue is.. If it's a new Pan you got to push
something out of the way (The engine) to get a new one in..
If it's just the gasket leak.. You drop it down.. Pull out the
old one.. get the new one in..with Permatex??? the same
way you got it out.. It's that Bar that prevent you from
taking it all the way out.. I assume you can't twist and
turn it out but you are saying.. Why would you need to..
if it's just the Gasket.. So.. Did you get that picture and
get yours done.. with Just JackStands.. or did you get
a drive up ramp..?

 

IT can be done but Life sucks without a lift.

 

I think we did put the front on jackstands to get it up a few inches for more elbow room. It's not hard if it's just the gasket. Like I said before it only took us 2 hours from when we drained the oil to when we started it up and drove it. Don't worry about raising the engine, there's enough space - it's tight, but there's enough space to replace the gasket.

 

Will do!

Felpro Gasket.. Jack it up.. No lift Sucks.. pull it down..
slip it in.. tighten up.. Got it guys...Sounds like a fun
weekend! See you at the Show!

Thanks!

 

majestic

i actually had soemone do it for me. it cost me 850. i would recomend highly to try and lift the engine yourself if a new pan is needed. im not sure exactly how many bolts are on the oil pan atleast 20 i think. i went with the blue felpro gaskit (1 peice). i dont see why oyu would need to jack anyhting up, unles your a big guy and cant really fit down their that well.

exactly what is getting inyour way is the engine mount bracket which i dont think an be removed by any means. but i did dontice that the *******s at the garage i took my truck to, what they did was remove the one plate in the pront of the car on the bottom basically rigth below the radiator. it sheilds the break lines. i noticed that they had removed this bracket which i think gives you the room to work. it is really tigth on both sides of the pan so make sure oyu have plenty of diffrent ratchet attachments. long/short short handeled rachet EXC>>

rememebr im only 15 and i learn form experiance and observing what peple have told me.

i home for your sake that the tranny pan os what is leakign on the transmition.


uhhhooo school time later

good luck

 

I meant jack the truck up, not the engine. If you don't have to replace the oil pan, you don't need to raise the engine. With that one piece gasket, you won't need any permatex on it. I've been told to get the oil pan gasket from Ford - it shouldn't be much different in price to one from an autoparts store (I think the one my dad got was around 30 bucks or so).

 

Ep.. Sure.. I understood.. Seems strange to me that
you would have to jack the Engine up for anything
including replacing the Oil pan. .but.. Mine is not
cracked.. So.. I'm sure it's just the Gasket...
Thanks for you the Input..